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yeah this is another episode of UFO

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karai I'm Ben and I'm Joe and this is

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where we talk about UFOs aliens and all

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things we hey dude did you know that we

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have a record about to record 30

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episodes of this podcast 30 is it 30 day

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the dirty 1380 Katie already did you

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think we'd ever beat it at this point

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bro never marry episode of crazy not to

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mention we only thought we were gonna do

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like eight not to mention what I ever

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think that by episode 30 we'd be talking

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to somebody from the USS Nimitz yeah and

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the USS Princeton like we were that

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you're like you were saying earlier how

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maybe we could have her neighbor on or

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like my buddy and then now we're like

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what yeah these legit news that saw the

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most famous UFO incident the most

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well-documented backed up UFO story of

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all time of history the people that were

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there are on our podcast and I did yeah

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it's gonna be sick I'm so I'm I'm beyond

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excited to be honest with you I'm a

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little bit nervous

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well it makes me nervous it's like I'm

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seeing all the stuff I like beyond meat

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like what what's in it you know like

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what what's what's the catch yeah the

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catch

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yeah dude I'm extremely stoked episode

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30 this is a huge milestone for us yeah

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you know I posted earlier last week you

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know like we hit 60 subs on on YouTube

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you know what I'm saying like it's it's

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uh it's it's it may not seem like it's

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that big of a deal but it's gonna be

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nice to look back and see the small

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accomplishments that we've made yeah man

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you know right and it we start out with

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a little Chinese dude so I'm super

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stoked

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yeah Gary Voorhees he was on the USS

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Princeton yep

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and PJ Hughes yeah dude news on the

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Nimitz

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the the the podcast has kind of gone

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through these little herbs and flows of

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like we'll have a like a guest on and

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we'll do like a goofy one but my

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favorite goofy one yeah everybody seemed

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to really like the last one my dad my

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dad my dad's here staying with me

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tonight and we you and I were just out

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talking to him and he just went to go

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buy a car uh uh us SUV and I'm like dad

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so you know we talked to him about that

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and he was like well y'all come on down

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here but ya do so what have we got on

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the podcast today they'd William William

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is a he's an OG of the the podcast yeah

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dude he started a podcast I guess he's a

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part of the bearded band of brothers

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it's it's Bob Bob Bo bebe it's it stands

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for big ol booty bandit pickles so if

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you ain't careful you got a big ol booty

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you better look out they're gonna come

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steal their hoes a funk band of bearded

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brothers yeah that's it but hey William

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I think I think maybe y'all should

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rethink that into a big ol booty bandits

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that's pretty good that's pretty good I

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came up with that all on my own

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but yeah dude I love the podcast so so

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thank you so much for the shout out in

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y'all's UFO episode man so we're gonna

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return the favor man yeah go check out

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check out Bob they talk about cool stuff

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like mind manipulation that you Stan UFO

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episode yeah yeah it's it's two brothers

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who enjoy a good conversation and let's

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see what else do they have in here a

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multi-planet species will we be a

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multi-planet species soo stuff like that

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like all kinds of cool [\h__\h] that we're

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the gears the old gears are grinding in

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the old noggin and what I appreciate

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about is that they're very

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fact oriented yeah they're very well

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read on on the stuff they're talking

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about unlike us where we're talking

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about [\h__\h] you know dicks and [\h__\h]

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of hey here's what here's what they said

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happened like dates and stuff and they

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and one of the episodes I know he was

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talking about how they had really

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written a script and they were gonna go

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off a script huh yeah and it didn't work

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oh hi yeah yeah it's hard guys we we we

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and we axe the script you know right off

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the bat we're like this today we're

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gonna work well I think we just knew

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that what it's not gonna we also could

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not be news anchors let's say letters

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freestyle

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bad tonight pump your leg and now we're

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going to Joe with traffic I'd be like I

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mean it's [\h__\h] up honestly I mean

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there's there's just so much traffic

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right now don't even get in your car

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honestly you should probably just just

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like uber uber your dinner tonight then

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back to sports but then there's a ball

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[Laughter]

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there's a pause of all it was that touch

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goal yeah so yeah Bob y'all check it out

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on Facebook dude yeah these are awesome

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it's so another spot cast shout out

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another oh gee Chris home has been there

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for since the beginning as well yeah

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what a create our boy did he started

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another he started his own podcast

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called it's the conspire a theory and he

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and then now party who just came out

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just sick that uh would tell me will you

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tell me a little bit do this this

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episode is nut don't give away too much

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cuz we want people listen to it but we

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want to intrigue the mind so people will

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go to and listen to this episode if

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you're if you're in a time manipulation

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if you like mansions in the desert

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you know maybe your your body changing

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into a Varina not a burrito oh not this

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time if you're into your physical body

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changing into your origin species on

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your own home planet definitely check

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so like if you were originally an alien

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species from a different planet what

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would happen if you went back to that

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planet made me see what you look like

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what yeah I got us I got haven't seen it

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yet listening to it yeah good job on

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this one Chris he's it so he's writing a

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book that's why it's the memoirs

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so you know if there is a part 3 dude oh

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I hope you do it Mans cuz that's uh this

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story has been like nuts right looks

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often Utley been great that's super dope

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so what was the song what's next this

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song what where did he go all down a

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yeah dude if if you ever okay yeah if

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you ever get to me in an alien and you

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all become friends what's the first song

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you play for it so you guys had some

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great ones

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yeah oh I'm glad that got a good

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response seriously with what Joseph said

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Purple Haze pearl hey lassic oh my brain

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of course dude Queen Bohemian Rhapsody

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another classic of course that was the

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other Joseph though oh that's the new

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Joseph oh my gosh it's the new Joseph

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what's up dude yeah dude Bohemian

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Rhapsody I think yeah totally and then

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after you showed them that masterpiece

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you got to go through an entire album

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the et's brain right for sure what else

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all right um let's see what's mask

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what's mask off have you heard of that

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yeah that's uh that Miley Cyrus no in

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sync it's that song [\h__\h] Jim

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something about Molly percocet oh ok

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get us all killed

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Jesus Jesus Christ Josh of course sir

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damn it to trip us up oh love that Chris

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long Chris said every lots of great yeah

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yep that's an awesome one Foo Fighters

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yeah totally totally show the aliens Foo

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Fighters Testament good absolutely

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William with the Andrea bus le conte

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partiro classic classic tile classic

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classic if uh if if they wanted if they

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wanted to cry tears of joy this is what

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you would you would show the you tease

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alien I'm gonna make you cry you did

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team 12 by bolt 16 well that's close

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maja have you heard that one yeah it's

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I was really torn because I was thinking

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uh you know James Brown yeah I wanted to

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show the aliens James Brown right or I

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wanted to show the aliens maybe

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Parliament you know give them a little

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taste of the extraterrestrial brothers

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dude you know yeah something maybe off

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mothership connection absolutely but uh

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yeah I I I went with Reverend Horton

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there's a little bit of everything in

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Texas huh because I one of the aliens to

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know that you know there's a little bit

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of a everything in Texas right right

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right everything is absolutely bigger in

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Texas right right even the universe like

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I don't I don't know where the aliens

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are from if you look at on a map the

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pretty sure it is like I know the

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universe is big but the universe in

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Texas is is even bigger Yeah right I

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mean it just has to be that's the rules

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right there's a there's a little bit of

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everything in Texas there's a whole lot

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of Texas in me and you know it's big

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enough that I'm willing to share with

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you okay well that's right yeah I

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wouldn't mind if the ETS were Texans

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dude you guys want to come here and be

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Texans okay I think

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might be the best American state to

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start with this Texas yeah go for it

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yeah yeah and like adopt some cool you

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know like some super South Texas accent

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yeah I mean we have a lot of crazy

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events that happen here in Texas yeah so

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we know that they're totally aware of

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Texas yeah you know and it makes me

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think like if an alien were to talk man

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what kind of accent what you wanted to

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want it to have it would definitely want

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it to be from the friendly state lest a

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Texas state there you go that's right

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all right so uh Jonathan earth girls are

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crazy I don't know what those girls are

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easy Oh easy earth girls are easy I'm

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actually gonna have to look that up yeah

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I don't know what that is super easy

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yeah well I'm gonna I'm gonna look it up

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right now okay what's the next one yeah

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Oh so my brother he goes scat man by

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scatman John do you know there start to

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like smoke yeah like like freaked out

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they wouldn't know what to do that's

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that's actually how they made the

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Roswell crash as they played that song

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and then she just crashed okay let's see

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yeah okay you already said you revered

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horton heat one yeah but man that was it

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that was a great prompt a great question

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to start that out with you

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earth girls are easy this is listen all

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right earth Chrissy the microphone this

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is this a movie earth girls are easy a a

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disco scene what earth girls are easy

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movie clip makeover are you trying to

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watch porn on my internet didn't know

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dude song maybe earth girls are easy

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song that's the only one that I didn't

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recognize

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thus the the earth grows I don't think

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this is a song yeah I think he's setting

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you up an error occurred good try good

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goddammit alright well that's that's all

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we have for Facebook yeah see we should

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we gloss over it I have to know cuz this

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the the image is insane are we listening

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to an ad right now no not at all

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I have never seen earth girls are easy I

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think it's a movie but hey that's the

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chick from beetlejuice the chick from

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angel she's an angel oh and an angel

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it's Buffy I don't know dude oh she's

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from Buffy not angel

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maybe she's definitely for Beetlejuice

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whippets whoa bird people this is an

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alien hey I bet you this is where uh old

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boy got his idea for the avians famous

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[\h__\h] movie dude I don't know well we

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tried

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oh every way I found it okay here we go

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[Music]

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[Applause]

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this is talking about all right guys

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song mate the aliens come by and they're

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like are these [\h__\h] they're idiots

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oh okay

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that was all for Facebook yeah all right

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let's get it let's get it go dude I'm

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sooo excited alright yeah listen listen

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like unifier let's go this guy's go

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absolutely absolutely we have a Gary

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Voorhees and PJ Hughes they're tic-tac

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witnesses gary was on the USS Princeton

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they're all former and PJ Hughes was on

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the Nimitz everybody knows what the

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Nimitz is the tick-tack-toe incidents

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way to tic-tac you know what everybody

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played tic-tac-toe that game sucks

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if you know what you're doing it does

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suck really well for the other person if

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they don't know what they're doing if

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you don't know what you're doing during

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take tac toe you're dumb yeah

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what I do is I like to switch from X's

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to O's mid mid game in game the confused

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you gotta confuse the opponent yeah

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alright dude well let's get into this

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all right well what's up guys thanks for

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coming on UFO gurage podcast tonight how

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are y'all doing I'm doing pretty damn

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good you PJ dude can't complain oh yeah

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awesome awesome man well hey we're super

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stoked that uh that you guys could could

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make it tonight I mean Gary thanks for

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reaching out to us and you know it all

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started with a little correction right

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that's how it all started in which we we

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totally uh we love it you know what I'm

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saying we're in this to kind of to kind

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of learn and

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and you know and just kind of get this

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information out and then you know and

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then thanks for for you know bringing PJ

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along with you as well man I mean this

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is gonna be this is gonna be pretty

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interesting I'm super excited about it

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yeah well me PJ Jason and and the Kevin

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we're all pretty tight so each and we

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tend to kind of hop on together whenever

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we can yeah that's super awesome so so

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you're like hey I'm gonna be on this

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podcast PJ what are you doing tonight

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[Laughter]

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that's awesome dude

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Gary I got it I got an O you know just

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out of my own curiosity how did you hear

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about the show man to be dead honest

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with you by accident because I was uh I

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was looking I was looking at because

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I'll be honest with you have my my

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knowledge on the UFO ology is well

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lacking because you know I just had this

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thing that happened to me but all it's

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been is a as I hate let's have some

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beers and then you know four beers in

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let me tell you a story starts man well

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so I was looking for UFO podcasts on and

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you know you guys came up so I was like

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alright I'll listen to these guys look

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like and then I was like oh my god these

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guys are yeah well that's awesome

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I'm glad that that you know you enjoy

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the podcast man I mean you know we we

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started this all out you know we were

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talking about this right before we

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started the show you know you're like

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man hey maybe we could maybe we can get

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our neighbor on or something crazy like

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that like when we first started the show

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now it's like oh okay cool now it kind

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of look at where we are now we're

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talking to legit people that were in the

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US community like what yeah exactly man

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exactly so I mean you know we're pretty

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stoked about it make sure are you guys

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listening make sure if you if you check

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it out our I Heart Radio or YouTube or

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anything like that man

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ah you know click the subscribe button

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and give a give us a thumbs up you know

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it makes it easier for people like Gary

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to find the show I blasted it across my

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Twitter and my facebook today so so you

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were saying that you're you're going on

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in Clyde Lewis after this correct yeah I

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guess uh you know Dave BT that did the

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that did the video for us he he's a good

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friend of ours too and he reached out to

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see if there's anybody that could go on

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there tonight getting they must have

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somebody cancel like Clyde Lewis is uh

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it's kind of a radio hero like I don't

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know if you know this man but he is like

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one of my biggest influences like to

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kind of hop on the mic you know I

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absolutely love his show I've been

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listening to it for years and do that

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that's super cool so when you go on

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awesome man well you know our show is uh

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it's definitely probably a little bit of

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a different format than any any other

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thing that you're probably gonna you

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know be on or have been on we uh we say

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dude a whole lot occasionally we tell

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dick jokes and talk about butts but you

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know we like to have fun and we like the

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information dude so you know I guess

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getting started out man let's start with

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you Gary just kind of give us a little

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rundown who you are what you did and you

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know how it's going now no probably

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everybody that's listeners probably

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already heard of the nimitz event with

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the tic-tac can event whatever you've

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heard it about and i'm one of the four

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sailors that came out in to backup

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flavor when he came out publicly about

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it to talk about it

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uber was the the initial pilot that was

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interviewed that broke the earliest we

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broke the story in 2017 and then you

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seen her today or her Kevin day that

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everybody knows him died now he can't he

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reached out to me and asked me if I you

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know wanted to talk about it and I came

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out to help you know and supported him

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and then and then PJ came around I think

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you what what what you watched you

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watched the anaemic encounters and then

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then reached out to Dave's BD right

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correct I'm late to the party better

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late than never because we look guys so

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so and then but I was an aegis computer

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technician and CC technician on the

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Aegis missile cruiser the USS Princeton

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we were what that means it's a lot of

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big fancy words for saying all the

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computers that ran all those systems and

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all those little cool little stations

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that they were watching the radars on

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so and then and then the systems that

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share all that information amongst all

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the ships to make this one big huge map

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of the battlefield you know that's

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that's the CC system that was also my

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baby so I had a pretty in-depth view of

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what was going on my buddy PJ here mean

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he's a kind of envy him he was a deck on

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the Nimitz working on the Hawkeye which

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I'll let him take it from there yeah

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your turn buddy yeah since Gary guess

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Tina threw me under the bus right there

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I was an avionics technician I had a job

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relatively similar to Gary's except I

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did it on our Hawkeye which is a mini

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AWACS and everyone early wanted a

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platform so funky-looking prop airplane

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with big old satellite dish on top yeah

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yeah I'm sure you say I'm sure you're

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sure you've seen it

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look like a big UFO on the top of it is

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that the one I'm thinking of oh yeah

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it's been in front of our faces the

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whole time exactly that's what it really

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was we just we've got to keep that

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secret yeah sorry about thorny on the

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bus but you're always too damn quiet PJ

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well I'm glad I explained because you

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know you know other than just being a

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cool ass name like what the Hawkeye

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actually is you know what I'm saying

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yeah I think a lot of people realize

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that that sort it's that's what it's

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called you know they're just like oh

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yeah it's the the plane with the the the

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giant satellite dish on top of it let's

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change the name to plan with the giant

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satellite dish I wonder if they I wonder

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how many channels they get the squadron

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I was in at the time was called the

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world famous Wallbangers and it was the

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same squadron I was in when all this

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stuff happened and if you look at the

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beginning of not the beginning but in

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the Hunt for Red October

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they actually heavily feature my

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airplane and it was an air from VW 117

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the world-famous Wallbangers oh wow

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wallbang that is awesome dude that's a

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cool man and after an alcoholic drinks I

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feel like I don't know what that is but

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I feel like it's one of those you know

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when you empty out the mats at the end

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of the night and pour it into a drink

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and you take a shot of it I don't know

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what you call that it's got a tequila

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and vodka and a little bit of Bud Light

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maybe some lime juice it is a it's a

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screwdriver with um it's got a third

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ingredient other than vodka and orange

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juice I can't remember what that third

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ingredient is that's awesome my uh my

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brother used to work on on u2's and in

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the bridge of spies movie with Tom Hanks

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that's his u2 and in the movie that he

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worked

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so that's pretty cool yeah super cool I

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didn't know that dude yeah so now he

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works on the a tin now he's a warthog

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guy yeah he really enjoys pretty badass

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- yeah oh yeah yeah yeah you know I was

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like dude how is it working on the

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youtubes compared to the warthog and he

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was like well you two was cool it's just

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such a pain in the ass there's a lot of

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red tape that goes along with it

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the Warthog is badass cuz you could just

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slap [\h__\h] on it and let it rot awesome

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oh no I think we lost PJ there Oh

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done day PJ I'm sorry okay cool okay my

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bad I got a mess this all I could be I'm

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I'm new to Skype so we're stuck in the

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bottom right there's like a little

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little message conversation thing that

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you open up you can kind of side chat

532
00:26:40,750 --> 00:26:39,280
yeah so like when you're both fit and

533
00:26:42,130 --> 00:26:40,760
you can like look [\h__\h] up and like link

534
00:26:43,500 --> 00:26:42,140
it in there so you sound like you know

535
00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:43,510
what you're saying

536
00:26:50,410 --> 00:26:46,370
we're gonna need that for about 50% of

537
00:26:54,100 --> 00:26:50,420
this webs or this podcast excuse our

538
00:26:59,170 --> 00:26:54,110
military ignorance right I know what

539
00:27:02,950 --> 00:26:59,180
that acronym means my whole family is my

540
00:27:05,740 --> 00:27:02,960
whole family is military and and I was

541
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:05,750
into Alice Cooper so that's kind of it

542
00:27:13,900 --> 00:27:10,010
kind of worked out strange based on

543
00:27:18,130 --> 00:27:13,910
himself awesome man that's cool dude so

544
00:27:22,750 --> 00:27:18,140
say I have some trailer roots yeah

545
00:27:24,670 --> 00:27:22,760
definitely man so the so the Nimitz was

546
00:27:27,370 --> 00:27:24,680
the aircraft carrier correct and the

547
00:27:31,780 --> 00:27:27,380
Princeton was like a missile cruiser is

548
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:31,790
that is that right yeah so it would be

549
00:27:36,100 --> 00:27:34,250
is uh we were guided missile cruiser and

550
00:27:39,730 --> 00:27:36,110
so what we actually did with the carrier

551
00:27:42,220 --> 00:27:39,740
so we were her to his flight guard so

552
00:27:44,260 --> 00:27:42,230
we're like the ship that was responsible

553
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:44,270
for protecting the

554
00:27:48,430 --> 00:27:46,490
the carrier's got a lot of armaments but

555
00:27:51,820 --> 00:27:48,440
it's mostly because of the aircraft and

556
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:51,830
stuff like that but a guided missile

557
00:27:56,950 --> 00:27:53,810
cruiser and I got it missile destroyer

558
00:27:58,810 --> 00:27:56,960
those two ships shy of the big boomers

559
00:28:01,300 --> 00:27:58,820
with all the nuclear missiles they're

560
00:28:03,510 --> 00:28:01,310
the most heavily armed ships in the Navy

561
00:28:07,660 --> 00:28:03,520
so basically whether it's a short-range

562
00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:07,670
aerial or surface we can pretty much

563
00:28:16,300 --> 00:28:10,370
destroy anything under like Mach 5

564
00:28:20,350 --> 00:28:16,310
coming at the carrier its uh-oh that's

565
00:28:24,010 --> 00:28:20,360
what well we were we were designed to

566
00:28:25,390 --> 00:28:24,020
actually counter the Russians what is it

567
00:28:37,030 --> 00:28:25,400
that what's the name of that Mach 2

568
00:28:38,770 --> 00:28:37,040
missile PJ it's a Russian missile and it

569
00:28:41,830 --> 00:28:38,780
was Nick goes Mach speed it's like

570
00:28:45,340 --> 00:28:41,840
basically a better target and hoping it

571
00:28:47,230 --> 00:28:45,350
is it so fast you know the Russians they

572
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:47,240
well the Russians go has got simple

573
00:28:50,860 --> 00:28:48,410
things like you ever seen one of their

574
00:28:53,050 --> 00:28:50,870
battleships it's like it's got more guns

575
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:53,060
than I've seen on any ship ever and it's

576
00:28:56,410 --> 00:28:54,410
like okay well just gonna shoot

577
00:28:59,950 --> 00:28:56,420
everything we have it and hope something

578
00:29:02,250 --> 00:28:59,960
hits that's crazy

579
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:02,260
sounds like one of those men in black

580
00:29:07,990 --> 00:29:06,290
guns with like three different muzzles

581
00:29:15,340 --> 00:29:08,000
on it it's got three different guns on

582
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:15,350
it wait wait ooh dude wasn't there like

583
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:16,370
yeah

584
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:20,450
was there a light aircraft carrier

585
00:29:26,590 --> 00:29:22,130
called the Princeton back in the day if

586
00:29:28,210 --> 00:29:26,600
didn't your recovery actually I was

587
00:29:32,790 --> 00:29:28,220
called a gator freighter I think I think

588
00:29:36,580 --> 00:29:32,800
it was that one of the the old deck ones

589
00:29:38,500 --> 00:29:36,590
aircraft carriers yeah and it actually

590
00:29:40,870 --> 00:29:38,510
we just I just saw an article the other

591
00:29:44,020 --> 00:29:40,880
day somebody linked me on Facebook that

592
00:29:47,410 --> 00:29:44,030
that ship actually ran into an unknown

593
00:29:53,740 --> 00:29:47,420
aircraft in and I think it was Korea I

594
00:29:56,230 --> 00:29:53,750
think it was PJ yeah so it's like yeah

595
00:29:56,659 --> 00:29:56,240
it had had an official report of running

596
00:29:58,729 --> 00:29:56,669
into

597
00:30:03,080 --> 00:29:58,739
no aircraft and in Karratha coast of

598
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:03,090
Korea so dude I mean other than this

599
00:30:10,340 --> 00:30:06,330
it's particular experience I mean being

600
00:30:12,499 --> 00:30:10,350
on being on naval ships I mean did y'all

601
00:30:13,669 --> 00:30:12,509
ever encounter anything else crazy I

602
00:30:15,409 --> 00:30:13,679
mean I would assume being out in the

603
00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:15,419
middle of the ocean you see you know

604
00:30:20,859 --> 00:30:17,129
there's either nothing or there's

605
00:30:23,570 --> 00:30:20,869
probably something crazy right I mean

606
00:30:26,299 --> 00:30:23,580
the two the only other two crazy things

607
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:26,309
that ever ever happen is is having to

608
00:30:35,499 --> 00:30:32,970
climb to mass in a typhoon and then when

609
00:30:37,399 --> 00:30:35,509
you uh and then probably like

610
00:30:40,399 --> 00:30:37,409
bioluminescent water which is always

611
00:30:43,279 --> 00:30:40,409
[\h__\h] crazy cool just do they like

612
00:30:44,659 --> 00:30:43,289
algae or something yeah that's when they

613
00:30:47,119 --> 00:30:44,669
aged every once in a while like when you

614
00:30:49,279 --> 00:30:47,129
go through through the water and when

615
00:30:52,460 --> 00:30:49,289
it's doing all that out blooming it just

616
00:30:54,979 --> 00:30:52,470
like the in Thetas huge blue-green wait

617
00:30:56,629 --> 00:30:54,989
going across the frickin ocean as you go

618
00:31:04,240 --> 00:30:56,639
through it it's like coolest thing

619
00:31:11,269 --> 00:31:08,289
[Laughter]

620
00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:11,279
everyone better if you ever look at the

621
00:31:15,470 --> 00:31:13,049
picture of an aircraft carrier you've

622
00:31:18,590 --> 00:31:15,480
got a couple elevators down one side of

623
00:31:20,869 --> 00:31:18,600
the ship same side as the island and the

624
00:31:22,310 --> 00:31:20,879
front corner there's kind of an angle on

625
00:31:24,289 --> 00:31:22,320
the deck where it goes that way out to

626
00:31:26,090 --> 00:31:24,299
the front there's Paul right there it's

627
00:31:28,129 --> 00:31:26,100
called the nav pole it's got a bunch of

628
00:31:30,289 --> 00:31:28,139
stinking navigation stuff for this ship

629
00:31:33,889 --> 00:31:30,299
and I'm sitting there one day working

630
00:31:35,690 --> 00:31:33,899
and it's pouring raining and Nick oh I

631
00:31:38,659 --> 00:31:35,700
get out of my airplane start shutting

632
00:31:53,139 --> 00:31:38,669
everything down bright flash very loud

633
00:32:00,200 --> 00:31:57,080
yeah make you pucker I love that yeah

634
00:32:02,060 --> 00:32:00,210
for sure so PJ dude walking around the

635
00:32:07,460 --> 00:32:02,070
aircraft carrier man how many times you

636
00:32:08,269 --> 00:32:07,470
get lost on that thing I mean from the

637
00:32:10,490 --> 00:32:08,279
Nimitz

638
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:10,500
to know

639
00:32:14,330 --> 00:32:12,570
the regen they're almost identical with

640
00:32:16,490 --> 00:32:14,340
with small variations so once you learn

641
00:32:20,509 --> 00:32:16,500
your way around one you'll know your way

642
00:32:22,909 --> 00:32:20,519
around all of them my first time out I

643
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:22,919
think I was lost the entire time yeah

644
00:32:28,669 --> 00:32:26,370
yeah and how big these ships are I had

645
00:32:30,409 --> 00:32:28,679
to go over to the Nimitz to help fix

646
00:32:32,779 --> 00:32:30,419
their fire control computers a couple of

647
00:32:35,210 --> 00:32:32,789
times my very first time on the ship I

648
00:32:40,789 --> 00:32:35,220
was two hours late for a meeting because

649
00:32:42,740 --> 00:32:40,799
I straight-up got lost I what's worse is

650
00:32:44,180 --> 00:32:42,750
I'm oh I'm ghost going through bulkheads

651
00:32:46,100 --> 00:32:44,190
and heading in the direction that I need

652
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:46,110
to go I said I pull open this bulkhead

653
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:48,210
and there's just nothing but a sea of

654
00:32:59,600 --> 00:32:57,740
they were like you have no idea where

655
00:33:02,299 --> 00:32:59,610
you're going I'm trying to get to so so

656
00:33:03,350 --> 00:33:02,309
so it though well hurry up and come

657
00:33:05,269 --> 00:33:03,360
through here and then they started

658
00:33:07,570 --> 00:33:05,279
yelling man on deck man on deck and it's

659
00:33:10,570 --> 00:33:07,580
dragging me through your birthing

660
00:33:17,389 --> 00:33:10,580
pulling you by your ear or something

661
00:33:19,430 --> 00:33:17,399
sounds like Porky's man that's hilarious

662
00:33:20,869 --> 00:33:19,440
oh yeah you need like you basically need

663
00:33:31,820 --> 00:33:20,879
a compass on the inside of one of those

664
00:33:34,399 --> 00:33:31,830
aircraft carriers there's so many decks

665
00:33:35,869 --> 00:33:34,409
down and so many decks up that I mean

666
00:33:37,610 --> 00:33:35,879
there's always an alternate route for

667
00:33:40,450 --> 00:33:37,620
everywhere and it's so easy to get

668
00:33:48,110 --> 00:33:43,369
I've always wondered is it easy to sleep

669
00:33:49,999 --> 00:33:48,120
out on the ocean with a boat oh dude

670
00:33:52,009 --> 00:33:50,009
that's the best part about it yeah

671
00:33:54,019 --> 00:33:52,019
especially if you just like like the

672
00:33:56,539 --> 00:33:54,029
heavy seas kind of suck but like there's

673
00:33:58,909 --> 00:33:56,549
a swan sea where it just kind of rocks

674
00:34:01,430 --> 00:33:58,919
just a little bit he's just like a baby

675
00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:01,440
and I created all just oh it's such good

676
00:34:13,220 --> 00:34:10,169
sleep so guys I mean before before this

677
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:13,230
experience did did you guys ever have an

678
00:34:17,629 --> 00:34:16,050
interest in the in the subject at all or

679
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:17,639
was it just something that kind of

680
00:34:24,820 --> 00:34:20,490
blindsided you and you were like well

681
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:28,220
it's never that I was into it I wasn't

682
00:34:32,990 --> 00:34:31,050
into it nearly to the depth I'm at now

683
00:34:34,190 --> 00:34:33,000
and I'm still wouldn't really consider

684
00:34:39,110 --> 00:34:34,200
myself into it

685
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:39,120
right more into it now but I mean I was

686
00:34:45,530 --> 00:34:43,530
always an x-files fan if that counts but

687
00:34:46,940 --> 00:34:45,540
it's it's you know we don't have

688
00:34:51,350 --> 00:34:46,950
anything weird happened to me prior to

689
00:34:53,390 --> 00:34:51,360
that so it's it was it's it's definitely

690
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:53,400
kind of made me look up a little bit

691
00:35:00,520 --> 00:34:57,690
more often happen man yeah yeah I mean

692
00:35:03,980 --> 00:35:00,530
being an x-files fan I mean dude like

693
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:03,990
I've seen them all right and some of the

694
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:06,090
stuff that uh some of the stuff that

695
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:08,370
we've gotten into and kind of read about

696
00:35:14,300 --> 00:35:12,330
like man that show is uh it it sound it

697
00:35:16,970 --> 00:35:14,310
seems pretty spot-on it's kind of crazy

698
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:16,980
I mean it's what you're man I mean with

699
00:35:21,770 --> 00:35:19,410
this subject like some of the craziest

700
00:35:24,350 --> 00:35:21,780
stuff you would just you know it's it's

701
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:24,360
like that's [\h__\h] right then you know

702
00:35:28,940 --> 00:35:27,210
you know I was listening to Gary and one

703
00:35:30,230 --> 00:35:28,950
day one of your interviews and and

704
00:35:32,180 --> 00:35:30,240
you're like you know like some of these

705
00:35:34,550 --> 00:35:32,190
guys you know they they know the

706
00:35:36,140 --> 00:35:34,560
documents the numbers you know this the

707
00:35:37,730 --> 00:35:36,150
sentence and the quote and all that

708
00:35:39,530 --> 00:35:37,740
stuff and where you can find all this

709
00:35:42,830 --> 00:35:39,540
information you know you said you know

710
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:42,840
yourself you know like I'm not that into

711
00:35:47,180 --> 00:35:44,490
it right but you know some of these guys

712
00:35:49,340 --> 00:35:47,190
you know we've been reading through some

713
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:49,350
of this this stuff man and it's it's

714
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:53,130
it's crazy it is crazy I definitely see

715
00:35:58,190 --> 00:35:56,610
why some of these guys like he's like I

716
00:36:00,860 --> 00:35:58,200
said that interview I mean it's just

717
00:36:03,050 --> 00:36:00,870
they're down for the details me I'm cool

718
00:36:04,430 --> 00:36:03,060
I'm in for a real cool story and it's

719
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:04,440
like hear what these people have been

720
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:08,490
through you know the documentary and

721
00:36:17,690 --> 00:36:10,410
I'll watch that don't don't give me 15

722
00:36:20,450 --> 00:36:17,700
pages to read give me some pictures yep

723
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:20,460
yep I I think the like one of the bigger

724
00:36:24,740 --> 00:36:22,410
documents that have recently come out is

725
00:36:28,970 --> 00:36:24,750
that the Admiral Wilson document right

726
00:36:30,830 --> 00:36:28,980
and how you know he contacted a private

727
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:30,840
company that was a crash retrieval

728
00:36:35,780 --> 00:36:33,450
program and they wouldn't let Admiral

729
00:36:38,070 --> 00:36:35,790
Wilson have you know access to any of

730
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:38,080
this stuff and you know they've ended up

731
00:36:42,390 --> 00:36:39,610
taking it to federal court and then

732
00:36:44,340 --> 00:36:42,400
federal court was like sorry dude like

733
00:36:46,980 --> 00:36:44,350
you can't have access to any of this

734
00:36:49,380 --> 00:36:46,990
stuff like it's it's it's nuts it's

735
00:36:53,610 --> 00:36:49,390
insane but you know in the document I

736
00:36:55,410 --> 00:36:53,620
mean yes yeah like that gets real real

737
00:36:57,540 --> 00:36:55,420
sketchy because he doesn't really like

738
00:36:59,160 --> 00:36:57,550
that's that's like when flavor came out

739
00:37:01,590 --> 00:36:59,170
and was like China's trying to like kind

740
00:37:03,450 --> 00:37:01,600
of say that we like he would have known

741
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:03,460
if like anything like that happened

742
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:05,170
because of how high rank he was and I'm

743
00:37:11,100 --> 00:37:07,570
like guy it doesn't matter how high rank

744
00:37:12,930 --> 00:37:11,110
you are she need to know exactly exactly

745
00:37:14,310 --> 00:37:12,940
you know even like you know even the

746
00:37:16,140 --> 00:37:14,320
president I mean that guy's just a

747
00:37:17,610 --> 00:37:16,150
temporary employee like people always

748
00:37:19,710 --> 00:37:17,620
think oh well the president would know

749
00:37:24,330 --> 00:37:19,720
you know he probably wouldn't know [\h__\h]

750
00:37:25,530 --> 00:37:24,340
more likely that it's like when the

751
00:37:26,850 --> 00:37:25,540
presidents are like this is I was

752
00:37:28,650 --> 00:37:26,860
thinking about when that one there's a

753
00:37:30,060 --> 00:37:28,660
lady candidate that's out right now that

754
00:37:32,010 --> 00:37:30,070
says she's gonna get to the bottom of it

755
00:37:33,210 --> 00:37:32,020
right and I'm thinking of myself yeah

756
00:37:34,950 --> 00:37:33,220
she's gonna get to the bottom of it

757
00:37:36,570 --> 00:37:34,960
until they actually brief her in this

758
00:37:40,340 --> 00:37:36,580
you realize this [\h__\h] I can't tell the

759
00:37:43,620 --> 00:37:40,350
public that yeah that's exactly yeah

760
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:43,630
yeah yeah I I hate when people use that

761
00:37:48,210 --> 00:37:45,850
like in their campaigns or like and I'm

762
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:48,220
gonna I'm gonna release UFO information

763
00:37:55,830 --> 00:37:51,970
it's like man let's see what you're

764
00:37:58,470 --> 00:37:55,840
gonna do yeah they've been trying to do

765
00:38:00,810 --> 00:37:58,480
that since the 40s man there's no way

766
00:38:04,130 --> 00:38:00,820
I'm somebody should get on their website

767
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:04,140
and say I triple dog dare you to do it

768
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:07,210
exactly oh we won't hear from you again

769
00:38:11,730 --> 00:38:10,210
right so hey I'm just I kind of wanna

770
00:38:15,020 --> 00:38:11,740
ask both you guys this kind of question

771
00:38:17,970 --> 00:38:15,030
and doesn't matter who goes first but

772
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:17,980
given that line of questioning like you

773
00:38:22,290 --> 00:38:19,690
know or question about releasing

774
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:22,300
information and Gary just mentioned well

775
00:38:26,070 --> 00:38:24,130
until she gets to the ER he gets to the

776
00:38:28,290 --> 00:38:26,080
bottom of it and realizes they can't

777
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:28,300
tell the public do you have any kind of

778
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:30,370
idea of like what it could be because I

779
00:38:35,670 --> 00:38:34,330
kind of lend to I kind of in push in the

780
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:35,680
direction it has something to do with

781
00:38:40,740 --> 00:38:38,290
like the collapse of our economy due to

782
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:40,750
this new technology this inner energy

783
00:38:43,260 --> 00:38:42,610
kind of situation do you have any

784
00:38:48,300 --> 00:38:43,270
thoughts on that

785
00:38:52,910 --> 00:38:48,310
oh go ahead TJ cause mine's gonna be a

786
00:38:58,500 --> 00:38:56,730
so I've had a long time to kind of try

787
00:39:05,820 --> 00:38:58,510
to figure out what these damn things are

788
00:39:09,230 --> 00:39:05,830
and so I've got actually well so I've

789
00:39:13,020 --> 00:39:09,240
got 81 different possibilities right now

790
00:39:15,359 --> 00:39:13,030
let's give you your totem ember the I I

791
00:39:16,620 --> 00:39:15,369
got a top eight then I've narrowed it

792
00:39:20,070 --> 00:39:16,630
down to and you're gonna get it

793
00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:20,080
basically a preview of my talk at the at

794
00:39:23,490 --> 00:39:21,760
the next convention because you know you

795
00:39:24,990 --> 00:39:23,500
gotta have something to talk about since

796
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:25,000
everybody's heard the damn story you

797
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:26,890
gotta have something so these are my

798
00:39:32,850 --> 00:39:29,170
tech series unlike exactly what these

799
00:39:34,290 --> 00:39:32,860
things could be so the weren't one of

800
00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:34,300
the first things I thought well maybe

801
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:36,730
what happens if like there was a past

802
00:39:41,850 --> 00:39:38,770
civilization that was crazy advanced

803
00:39:43,770 --> 00:39:41,860
right right now you turn on the Weather

804
00:39:46,830 --> 00:39:43,780
Channel ever get to find out what the

805
00:39:48,450 --> 00:39:46,840
weather is one on the world what happens

806
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:48,460
if we get so advanced that we've got

807
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:50,050
drones just rolling around the world

808
00:39:54,210 --> 00:39:52,210
finding out every information about

809
00:39:56,970 --> 00:39:54,220
everything in the world and then

810
00:39:59,400 --> 00:39:56,980
reporting it to us and what if we have a

811
00:40:01,680 --> 00:39:59,410
big huge network of drones that just do

812
00:40:05,070 --> 00:40:01,690
that just monitor the earth well what

813
00:40:07,380 --> 00:40:05,080
happens if that tech from an advanced

814
00:40:10,770 --> 00:40:07,390
civilization that was on the earth prior

815
00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:10,780
to us survives somehow and like little

816
00:40:14,849 --> 00:40:12,250
remnants of like these look like these

817
00:40:17,790 --> 00:40:14,859
little notes just like somehow survived

818
00:40:21,180 --> 00:40:17,800
under the ocean and just basically make

819
00:40:22,980 --> 00:40:21,190
these things and repair them and just

820
00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:22,990
keep on going it doesn't know that it's

821
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:24,730
not supposed to do that anymore but it

822
00:40:30,180 --> 00:40:26,650
just keeps on going that's programmed

823
00:40:32,910 --> 00:40:30,190
well you know it's just text so guess

824
00:40:34,770 --> 00:40:32,920
what eventually fails so all of a sudden

825
00:40:38,220 --> 00:40:34,780
one of these things fail right over

826
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:38,230
Roswell crash and it's say what's on the

827
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:40,210
inside is biotech you know so they think

828
00:40:43,410 --> 00:40:42,010
they got like you know aliens for a

829
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:43,420
reality it's just like an advanced

830
00:40:51,900 --> 00:40:49,930
biotech running this freakin drone what

831
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:51,910
what year it is he's just like well this

832
00:40:58,620 --> 00:40:56,490
is my job she's just gonna do you know

833
00:40:59,970 --> 00:40:58,630
you know so all of a sudden we get a

834
00:41:01,590 --> 00:40:59,980
hold of this tech and we're just like

835
00:41:03,690 --> 00:41:01,600
you know during that time we're probably

836
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:03,700
like burning off half the circuitry just

837
00:41:07,060 --> 00:41:04,610
trying to figure out where

838
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:07,070
is all of a sudden you know they get you

839
00:41:10,630 --> 00:41:08,930
know they get a couple of hits on you

840
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:10,640
know something that works still and

841
00:41:13,690 --> 00:41:12,170
you're like oh well you know this still

842
00:41:15,010 --> 00:41:13,700
works so let's not disassemble it yeah

843
00:41:17,650 --> 00:41:15,020
you know that all sudden like later on

844
00:41:19,420 --> 00:41:17,660
now that we're getting into you know you

845
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:19,430
know quantum quantum mechanics and

846
00:41:22,660 --> 00:41:21,530
quantum computers and stuff like that

847
00:41:24,460 --> 00:41:22,670
all of a sudden maybe we're starting to

848
00:41:25,990 --> 00:41:24,470
actually learn more about this stuff and

849
00:41:28,990 --> 00:41:26,000
maybe that's what these little jumps in

850
00:41:31,150 --> 00:41:29,000
Texas are is them just like kind of

851
00:41:33,700 --> 00:41:31,160
holding this holding this tech back a

852
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:33,710
little bit just kind of just letting it

853
00:41:38,170 --> 00:41:35,330
jump every every give me because we went

854
00:41:43,990 --> 00:41:38,180
from like the razor phone which will

855
00:41:48,850 --> 00:41:44,000
used to be remember the razor was so

856
00:41:50,140 --> 00:41:48,860
cool yeah and then they came out with it

857
00:41:51,430 --> 00:41:50,150
you know the BlackBerry kind of came out

858
00:41:55,990 --> 00:41:51,440
at that time but nobody really [\h__\h]

859
00:41:57,940 --> 00:41:56,000
with it because the black was like a

860
00:42:00,700 --> 00:41:57,950
super geek [\h__\h] phone and that was to

861
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:00,710
pay too much ass to you yeah it was

862
00:42:04,630 --> 00:42:02,930
crazy expensive it was even more

863
00:42:07,990 --> 00:42:04,640
expensive than the razor but then all of

864
00:42:11,140 --> 00:42:08,000
a sudden from that to the iPhone yeah

865
00:42:13,990 --> 00:42:11,150
touch screen I mean that's just a

866
00:42:16,300 --> 00:42:14,000
massive jump in tech dude yeah and then

867
00:42:17,740 --> 00:42:16,310
and that's just the cell phone industry

868
00:42:19,300 --> 00:42:17,750
we're not going to talk about like the

869
00:42:20,860 --> 00:42:19,310
medical industries and all the other

870
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:20,870
industries that seem to just have these

871
00:42:24,670 --> 00:42:22,970
you know jumps and then like you know

872
00:42:26,380 --> 00:42:24,680
this tech industry all these tech people

873
00:42:28,630 --> 00:42:26,390
no idea who they were

874
00:42:34,270 --> 00:42:28,640
prior to this one thing and then boom

875
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:34,280
you know overnight so Steve Jobs so that

876
00:42:40,730 --> 00:42:38,930
next maybe he was actually not a genius

877
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:40,740
and they just gave him the tech to sell

878
00:42:46,890 --> 00:42:44,090
[Laughter]

879
00:42:50,950 --> 00:42:46,900
[Applause]

880
00:42:53,590 --> 00:42:50,960
so then this kind of piggybacks onto the

881
00:42:55,750 --> 00:42:53,600
last one but maybe just we just actually

882
00:42:58,060 --> 00:42:55,760
developed this tech ourselves but since

883
00:42:59,710 --> 00:42:58,070
the 40's we've been doing like a tech

884
00:43:01,330 --> 00:42:59,720
cartel where they don't you know like

885
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:01,340
where did it be or did with the times

886
00:43:05,110 --> 00:43:03,290
they don't want to release too much of

887
00:43:06,940 --> 00:43:05,120
it out faster than the community can

888
00:43:09,130 --> 00:43:06,950
consume it right you know because you

889
00:43:11,170 --> 00:43:09,140
mean really your profits are only going

890
00:43:15,550 --> 00:43:11,180
to be maximized by the consumption of

891
00:43:18,490 --> 00:43:15,560
the private market so why why why waste

892
00:43:22,050 --> 00:43:18,500
it all by flooding the market with crazy

893
00:43:24,849 --> 00:43:22,060
attack it's a really great point yeah

894
00:43:26,859 --> 00:43:24,859
and then of course you know one of the

895
00:43:29,230 --> 00:43:26,869
more famous ones that everybody likes is

896
00:43:31,150 --> 00:43:29,240
alien current technology you know it

897
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:31,160
could be just current alien technology

898
00:43:34,359 --> 00:43:32,450
and we just happened to get our hands on

899
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:34,369
some of it or they're just current

900
00:43:42,670 --> 00:43:36,050
aliens and they're just chilling like oh

901
00:43:45,609 --> 00:43:42,680
[\h__\h] they can see us now [\h__\h] yeah

902
00:43:47,770 --> 00:43:45,619
and then of course there's the fourth

903
00:43:49,810 --> 00:43:47,780
there the fir the fourth one is old

904
00:43:51,609 --> 00:43:49,820
alien tech so instead of this kind of

905
00:43:54,460 --> 00:43:51,619
compass a little bit along the same

906
00:43:56,380 --> 00:43:54,470
lines as the past civilization tech but

907
00:43:59,560 --> 00:43:56,390
instead of being like from this planet

908
00:44:01,540 --> 00:43:59,570
it's like say old aliens came here

909
00:44:04,839 --> 00:44:01,550
seeded the planet helped genetically

910
00:44:06,730 --> 00:44:04,849
engineer everything we develop as the

911
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:06,740
dominant species and then they kind of

912
00:44:12,370 --> 00:44:09,890
just guide us along so in this theory

913
00:44:17,589 --> 00:44:12,380
that they don't have faster than light

914
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:17,599
travel so they basically leave drones to

915
00:44:22,750 --> 00:44:20,210
monitor us behind to monitor their their

916
00:44:24,730 --> 00:44:22,760
their projects and experiments and then

917
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:24,740
they start heading back either off to

918
00:44:29,140 --> 00:44:26,330
the next stop or back to their home

919
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:29,150
point you know like maybe like a like a

920
00:44:34,870 --> 00:44:32,330
science expedition or even just a you

921
00:44:36,310 --> 00:44:34,880
know exploration expedition you know so

922
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:36,320
they just kind of leave drones behind

923
00:44:40,930 --> 00:44:38,570
just a monitor situation and that's what

924
00:44:43,420 --> 00:44:40,940
we're seeing all the time you know and

925
00:44:46,030 --> 00:44:43,430
then it would also indicate why there's

926
00:44:48,970 --> 00:44:46,040
so much text in the past about people

927
00:44:52,660 --> 00:44:48,980
talking to sky people talking to you

928
00:44:57,700 --> 00:44:52,670
know will quote the crazy haired guy

929
00:45:07,390 --> 00:44:57,710
ancient aliens I don't know there or

930
00:45:09,010 --> 00:45:07,400
aliens he's gonna be at the next the

931
00:45:10,750 --> 00:45:09,020
next thing that we're going to I think

932
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:10,760
mostly alien guys are gonna be there

933
00:45:21,910 --> 00:45:18,290
your folk on this is the contact in the

934
00:45:23,740 --> 00:45:21,920
desert in fact our whole all of most of

935
00:45:27,670 --> 00:45:23,750
the UAP expedition will be there which

936
00:45:28,830 --> 00:45:27,680
is basically made up of just me JP we

937
00:45:35,100 --> 00:45:28,840
got

938
00:45:39,510 --> 00:45:35,110
actual legitimate people that like are

939
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:39,520
super smart when you see Giorgio there

940
00:45:51,180 --> 00:45:41,770
tell him we emailed him and he needs two

941
00:45:52,860 --> 00:45:51,190
e-mails back yeah do you see you got

942
00:45:54,830 --> 00:45:52,870
your your doctor scientist shirt and

943
00:45:57,060 --> 00:45:54,840
you're gonna wear it out there right oh

944
00:46:03,000 --> 00:45:57,070
dude I'm gonna be walking around with

945
00:46:05,220 --> 00:46:03,010
that [\h__\h] so with that situation it's

946
00:46:07,230 --> 00:46:05,230
like old alien tech yeah so they just

947
00:46:09,240 --> 00:46:07,240
left that [\h__\h] here and sometimes it

948
00:46:11,850 --> 00:46:09,250
fails sometimes we get some of it and we

949
00:46:15,660 --> 00:46:11,860
develop it and reverse-engineer it and

950
00:46:17,370 --> 00:46:15,670
move on you know and then and then the

951
00:46:19,860 --> 00:46:17,380
rest of the theories are a little bit

952
00:46:21,810 --> 00:46:19,870
more out there so it's just like cuz I

953
00:46:23,550 --> 00:46:21,820
have a firm believer that everything is

954
00:46:25,340 --> 00:46:23,560
everything is possible just highly

955
00:46:27,870 --> 00:46:25,350
improbable

956
00:46:30,780 --> 00:46:27,880
nothing nothing nothing isn't nothing is

957
00:46:33,420 --> 00:46:30,790
impossible just highly improbable so in

958
00:46:35,460 --> 00:46:33,430
the next theory it's a parallel

959
00:46:38,190 --> 00:46:35,470
dimension text so multiverse theory

960
00:46:42,030 --> 00:46:38,200
meaning that it's been from like another

961
00:46:44,130 --> 00:46:42,040
world anywhere but you know base it's

962
00:46:46,260 --> 00:46:44,140
just in a parallel universe that

963
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:46,270
happened to develop the tech to move

964
00:46:52,500 --> 00:46:50,010
over to the next universe before we did

965
00:46:54,180 --> 00:46:52,510
because if this theory is correct that

966
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:54,190
means that there's an infinite amount of

967
00:46:59,370 --> 00:46:56,650
universes and again it starts to get

968
00:47:01,860 --> 00:46:59,380
mind blog like so and you know I love

969
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:01,870
that yeah but when you have an infinite

970
00:47:08,580 --> 00:47:03,970
amount of situations that means there's

971
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:08,590
always a version that's a crazy more

972
00:47:12,780 --> 00:47:10,930
advanced in you there's always a virgin

973
00:47:14,970 --> 00:47:12,790
that already has developed the

974
00:47:16,770 --> 00:47:14,980
technology to go between dimensions and

975
00:47:18,750 --> 00:47:16,780
there's always going to be a situation

976
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:18,760
where anything you think of right now

977
00:47:22,590 --> 00:47:20,890
all of a sudden it just pops into

978
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:22,600
existence and that in that situation

979
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:26,650
like manifests itself yeah yeah so I

980
00:47:33,720 --> 00:47:29,290
mean that kind of that can start to get

981
00:47:36,510 --> 00:47:33,730
kind of borderline philosophy I love

982
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:36,520
that that's definitely my bag for sure

983
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:39,010
that the the possibility of I mean

984
00:47:41,730 --> 00:47:40,690
that's maybe that's why Bigfoot is is

985
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:41,740
blurry right he's

986
00:47:46,650 --> 00:47:44,530
that's this figured out how to go

987
00:47:49,710 --> 00:47:46,660
transdimensional right there's some kind

988
00:47:51,150 --> 00:47:49,720
of tail or or you might be blurry cuz

989
00:47:58,339 --> 00:47:51,160
its bunch of people run it through the

990
00:48:00,960 --> 00:47:58,349
woods scared of [\h__\h] yeah exactly man

991
00:48:06,390 --> 00:48:00,970
that first I mean I don't know or I

992
00:48:15,329 --> 00:48:06,400
don't know what number you are on five

993
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:15,339
right now it's so the number six is the

994
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:17,650
classic time-travel theory that it's not

995
00:48:25,650 --> 00:48:20,530
any aliens whatsoever but it's us coming

996
00:48:27,300 --> 00:48:25,660
back to try to fix them yeah yeah I've

997
00:48:29,870 --> 00:48:27,310
been thinking about something that kind

998
00:48:35,609 --> 00:48:29,880
of goes along with that lately is that

999
00:48:38,430 --> 00:48:35,619
you know that it kind of lends this idea

1000
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:38,440
of us trying to to cover up the fact

1001
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:41,410
that there's this tech out there is is

1002
00:48:45,510 --> 00:48:43,330
that it is us from the future and we

1003
00:48:47,370 --> 00:48:45,520
just we went down a bad path so we're

1004
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:47,380
trying to prevent ourselves from going

1005
00:48:52,260 --> 00:48:50,050
down this bad path so we're like hey you

1006
00:48:53,490 --> 00:48:52,270
know we did this once and everybody knew

1007
00:48:55,950 --> 00:48:53,500
about this technology and it was

1008
00:48:58,500 --> 00:48:55,960
available to the public but we basically

1009
00:49:00,930 --> 00:48:58,510
killed our whole civilization is just

1010
00:49:02,820 --> 00:49:00,940
like 14 of us left yeah they're coming

1011
00:49:06,540 --> 00:49:02,830
back you know one at a time and saying

1012
00:49:07,620 --> 00:49:06,550
like hey change this at this date so

1013
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:07,630
they're like going back and just

1014
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:09,490
changing little things along the way so

1015
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:12,130
that we don't actually you know kill off

1016
00:49:17,370 --> 00:49:14,650
our whole existence yeah as a species

1017
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:17,380
even even like Penniston or pinpin I

1018
00:49:21,359 --> 00:49:19,210
think it's Penniston from the Rendlesham

1019
00:49:24,570 --> 00:49:21,369
case that's been seen when he when he

1020
00:49:26,849 --> 00:49:24,580
you know he he touched this craft and he

1021
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:26,859
supposedly had to download right we know

1022
00:49:32,339 --> 00:49:29,290
about the binary code that he wrote down

1023
00:49:34,079 --> 00:49:32,349
into this book but later on in years

1024
00:49:36,870 --> 00:49:34,089
after you know really mulling this over

1025
00:49:39,930 --> 00:49:36,880
you know he believes that it's not

1026
00:49:41,430 --> 00:49:39,940
aliens it's it's actually us from the

1027
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:41,440
future yeah yeah

1028
00:49:46,890 --> 00:49:45,130
so yeah that's as I mean it it's crazy

1029
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:46,900
like when something like this happens to

1030
00:49:51,750 --> 00:49:49,210
you that [\h__\h] the distant roar around to

1031
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:51,760
your head like I got this idea for a

1032
00:49:55,579 --> 00:49:54,490
fictional story and it basically it's

1033
00:49:59,089 --> 00:49:55,589
based off of

1034
00:50:01,160 --> 00:49:59,099
you know we started doing you know

1035
00:50:03,670 --> 00:50:01,170
biohacking with like CRISPR and stuff

1036
00:50:07,009 --> 00:50:03,680
like that and we figure out a way to

1037
00:50:09,109 --> 00:50:07,019
reduce the length of there to stop

1038
00:50:11,569 --> 00:50:09,119
telomers from shortening basically

1039
00:50:13,789 --> 00:50:11,579
making us immortal yeah you know so bait

1040
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:13,799
you know I mean there's been a lot of TV

1041
00:50:17,420 --> 00:50:15,450
shows and a couple of things that have

1042
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:17,430
kind of touched on this and in the past

1043
00:50:20,599 --> 00:50:19,170
I just actually watched something new

1044
00:50:24,140 --> 00:50:20,609
that really kind of got around

1045
00:50:26,839 --> 00:50:24,150
well basically instead of like being

1046
00:50:28,670 --> 00:50:26,849
able to fix it they figure out that the

1047
00:50:33,739 --> 00:50:28,680
only way they're gonna fix their genetic

1048
00:50:37,700 --> 00:50:33,749
issues is by letting the species read

1049
00:50:39,799 --> 00:50:37,710
evolve so also that one scientist gets

1050
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:39,809
this idea well I tell you what I found

1051
00:50:45,650 --> 00:50:42,450
this like almost dead Rock in this other

1052
00:50:48,890 --> 00:50:45,660
galaxy and if we shoot amino acids and

1053
00:50:50,930 --> 00:50:48,900
all the stuff like that we can guide its

1054
00:50:53,109 --> 00:50:50,940
evolution and we will get it give it a

1055
00:51:02,469 --> 00:50:53,119
genetic memory so that our our

1056
00:51:04,370 --> 00:51:02,479
civilizations not lost yeah so like I

1057
00:51:05,930 --> 00:51:04,380
started off and I'll just give you a

1058
00:51:07,309 --> 00:51:05,940
little tidbit of what it is cuz I

1059
00:51:09,259 --> 00:51:07,319
eventually actually want to write it as

1060
00:51:11,269 --> 00:51:09,269
a book is this you know basically these

1061
00:51:13,700 --> 00:51:11,279
guys are hurtling through space and they

1062
00:51:15,620 --> 00:51:13,710
find this dead pluralization and then

1063
00:51:17,420 --> 00:51:15,630
it's just nothing but ruins well they

1064
00:51:19,670 --> 00:51:17,430
find an energy signature and if ditch

1065
00:51:23,839 --> 00:51:19,680
it's basically this scientists computer

1066
00:51:26,209 --> 00:51:23,849
and so it's got all of the files of

1067
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:26,219
everything that's happened since the the

1068
00:51:30,259 --> 00:51:27,930
cure which is what they called this

1069
00:51:33,469 --> 00:51:30,269
vaccination that that basically kept you

1070
00:51:34,910 --> 00:51:33,479
immortal forever well the side effect of

1071
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:34,920
this vaccination that made you immortal

1072
00:51:40,789 --> 00:51:39,450
is that you became infertile you

1073
00:51:43,579 --> 00:51:40,799
couldn't you couldn't reproduce anymore

1074
00:51:45,380 --> 00:51:43,589
it's nearly as sterile you know so then

1075
00:51:47,059 --> 00:51:45,390
all of a sudden you know obviously

1076
00:51:48,529 --> 00:51:47,069
people start realizing that you know

1077
00:51:51,259 --> 00:51:48,539
[\h__\h] we're all sterile because they

1078
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:51,269
never planned on the getting out so you

1079
00:51:56,329 --> 00:51:54,210
know it will just say some hippies were

1080
00:52:01,160 --> 00:51:56,339
like nah man you got this cure in your

1081
00:52:02,660 --> 00:52:01,170
home hostage they break into his lab and

1082
00:52:04,519 --> 00:52:02,670
they steal it and they then they like

1083
00:52:06,079 --> 00:52:04,529
mass-produce it and like just give it to

1084
00:52:08,940 --> 00:52:06,089
everybody because technically it cures

1085
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:08,950
cancer but all but theirs

1086
00:52:19,470 --> 00:52:10,690
every 10 people basically just

1087
00:52:21,930 --> 00:52:19,480
straight-up died from it yeah so it's

1088
00:52:23,579 --> 00:52:21,940
like dude is it like the downfalls of it

1089
00:52:25,410 --> 00:52:23,589
you know if they're not using it they're

1090
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:25,420
not giving it to the public because it's

1091
00:52:29,490 --> 00:52:27,970
so dangerous but now so by the time but

1092
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:29,500
they didn't realize it's not 1 in 10

1093
00:52:37,079 --> 00:52:31,570
it's 50% of the people that take it just

1094
00:52:38,970 --> 00:52:37,089
died these these bytes of these these

1095
00:52:40,410 --> 00:52:38,980
people that consider themselves like

1096
00:52:42,930 --> 00:52:40,420
heroes to the people that they're gonna

1097
00:52:44,910 --> 00:52:42,940
cure all the cancer in the world didn't

1098
00:52:47,490 --> 00:52:44,920
realize that this was gonna happen and

1099
00:52:49,260 --> 00:52:47,500
literally kill half the planet and then

1100
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:49,270
the other half end up being sterile

1101
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:53,290
because almost everybody takes this damn

1102
00:52:59,700 --> 00:52:57,010
drug or this vaccination and then the

1103
00:53:01,829 --> 00:52:59,710
people that don't do it and end up you

1104
00:53:04,410 --> 00:53:01,839
know staying mortal I mean after a

1105
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:04,420
couple of hundred bed so now you're just

1106
00:53:09,510 --> 00:53:05,770
left with all these people that can't

1107
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:09,520
reproduce I don't know if you've ever

1108
00:53:13,410 --> 00:53:12,010
heard this theory but listening to your

1109
00:53:16,650 --> 00:53:13,420
story it kind of it kind of made me

1110
00:53:21,569 --> 00:53:16,660
think of it so the the Zetas or the

1111
00:53:24,559 --> 00:53:21,579
greys they they started to basically you

1112
00:53:28,410 --> 00:53:24,569
know become so advanced that their

1113
00:53:31,589 --> 00:53:28,420
evolution cycle wasn't wasn't natural

1114
00:53:33,780 --> 00:53:31,599
anymore and they got to a kind of a

1115
00:53:36,630 --> 00:53:33,790
point to where they also couldn't

1116
00:53:39,180 --> 00:53:36,640
reproduce but the thing that happened

1117
00:53:42,450 --> 00:53:39,190
was technologically they could only

1118
00:53:46,020 --> 00:53:42,460
advance so far and so there wasn't this

1119
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:46,030
natural you know elevation of the

1120
00:53:50,220 --> 00:53:47,770
species and they couldn't go any further

1121
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:50,230
and once they figured out you know how

1122
00:53:57,240 --> 00:53:53,490
to travel this space and time basically

1123
00:53:59,460 --> 00:53:57,250
they found us and we because supposedly

1124
00:54:02,099 --> 00:53:59,470
we kind of have like a similar genetic

1125
00:54:05,339 --> 00:54:02,109
makeup they have like one more strand in

1126
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:05,349
their DNA they come here and that's why

1127
00:54:11,460 --> 00:54:07,930
they start taking our DNA is because

1128
00:54:16,859 --> 00:54:11,470
they're trying to to reverse the process

1129
00:54:19,260 --> 00:54:16,869
of them being this highly technological

1130
00:54:21,300 --> 00:54:19,270
you know species and kind of start back

1131
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:21,310
from the middle to where they messed up

1132
00:54:23,339 --> 00:54:21,970
so there

1133
00:54:25,980 --> 00:54:23,349
they're kind of going backwards and

1134
00:54:28,410 --> 00:54:25,990
that's why they take our DNA now because

1135
00:54:30,630 --> 00:54:28,420
you know they they also can't reproduce

1136
00:54:34,740 --> 00:54:30,640
you know so there's there's not making

1137
00:54:37,140 --> 00:54:34,750
any more of them you know that genetic

1138
00:54:42,089 --> 00:54:37,150
material for for that's you know when

1139
00:54:43,740 --> 00:54:42,099
that specific purpose so yeah yeah I

1140
00:54:45,780 --> 00:54:43,750
actually heard that from one of your old

1141
00:54:58,380 --> 00:54:45,790
podcast as the first time I actually

1142
00:55:01,020 --> 00:54:58,390
heard anything about us you know during

1143
00:55:02,310 --> 00:55:01,030
you know once we discovered the need you

1144
00:55:04,470 --> 00:55:02,320
know the nuclear bomb

1145
00:55:06,599 --> 00:55:04,480
you know the atom bomb now we're

1146
00:55:09,599 --> 00:55:06,609
smashing atoms and creating little black

1147
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:09,609
holes and this and that and and you know

1148
00:55:13,710 --> 00:55:12,010
we're just doctor scientists dude yeah

1149
00:55:15,390 --> 00:55:13,720
they know what I'm saying so you know a

1150
00:55:18,630 --> 00:55:15,400
lot of times we're speculating but you

1151
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:18,640
know apparently these these these you

1152
00:55:24,599 --> 00:55:20,770
know these weapons these machines you

1153
00:55:28,079 --> 00:55:24,609
know when they explode there's a small

1154
00:55:30,420 --> 00:55:28,089
time there's a small like a very short

1155
00:55:32,579 --> 00:55:30,430
amount of time where it actually opens a

1156
00:55:35,099 --> 00:55:32,589
portal and so we're opening these

1157
00:55:37,470 --> 00:55:35,109
portals for these things to come in and

1158
00:55:39,270 --> 00:55:37,480
so when we started you know that's why

1159
00:55:41,099 --> 00:55:39,280
all this stuff like in the 40s started

1160
00:55:42,930 --> 00:55:41,109
happening like crazy they started

1161
00:55:46,230 --> 00:55:42,940
showing up these crafts started showing

1162
00:55:48,630 --> 00:55:46,240
up and we started you know like oh there

1163
00:55:50,339 --> 00:55:48,640
are aliens right it might have been like

1164
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:50,349
like it might have been like look damn

1165
00:55:54,870 --> 00:55:52,810
beacon for all we know exactly exactly

1166
00:55:56,940 --> 00:55:54,880
and it just kind of like it will come up

1167
00:55:59,040 --> 00:55:56,950
and it was like whoa hey so we can go

1168
00:56:01,859 --> 00:55:59,050
here they've opened these little portals

1169
00:56:04,829 --> 00:56:01,869
you know and exactly it affects it

1170
00:56:07,020 --> 00:56:04,839
affects you know space and time even

1171
00:56:09,839 --> 00:56:07,030
like dimensionally like you were talking

1172
00:56:11,820 --> 00:56:09,849
about like it ripples through these

1173
00:56:15,890 --> 00:56:11,830
dimensions and through this time and

1174
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:18,690
yeah they're probably one of the

1175
00:56:22,109 --> 00:56:20,890
strongest pulses of power that would

1176
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:22,119
come off this planet

1177
00:56:27,780 --> 00:56:24,970
I mean shy of like us blasting high

1178
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:27,790
frequency RF in every direction in our

1179
00:56:35,710 --> 00:56:34,210
solar system most of these species have

1180
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:35,720
moved to like

1181
00:56:39,670 --> 00:56:37,850
you know communications based off a

1182
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:39,680
quantum entanglement you know they're

1183
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:41,210
probably not even looking for these

1184
00:56:45,940 --> 00:56:44,570
frequencies you know he's I mean if

1185
00:56:48,310 --> 00:56:45,950
they're and if they're communicating us

1186
00:56:51,100 --> 00:56:48,320
with quantum entanglement we've got no

1187
00:56:54,010 --> 00:56:51,110
clue you know I have a feeling that you

1188
00:56:56,140 --> 00:56:54,020
know that communication we've all been

1189
00:56:58,270 --> 00:56:56,150
looking for is just not a tech that we

1190
00:57:02,590 --> 00:56:58,280
don't know yet yeah definitely

1191
00:57:06,130 --> 00:57:02,600
definitely yeah I think one of the the

1192
00:57:08,830 --> 00:57:06,140
best things I ever heard was when it

1193
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:08,840
comes to this subject is uh nobody

1194
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:11,450
actually knows nobody will ever know and

1195
00:57:18,430 --> 00:57:13,610
the only time you'll know is when you

1196
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:18,440
die that's like it's kind of like one of

1197
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:21,170
the lines from Hitchhiker's Guide where

1198
00:57:24,550 --> 00:57:23,330
he's like he's guys like I always

1199
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:24,560
thought there was something going on he

1200
00:57:30,630 --> 00:57:26,210
goes oh no that's just healthy paranoia

1201
00:57:37,090 --> 00:57:35,620
actually going on is zero yeah that's

1202
00:57:42,970 --> 00:57:37,100
one of my favorite movies I love that

1203
00:57:45,940 --> 00:57:42,980
movie it's so good it's so good so I've

1204
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:45,950
got one last theory and it's just the

1205
00:57:50,380 --> 00:57:48,650
standard current alien civilization

1206
00:57:53,410 --> 00:57:50,390
living here underground and under our

1207
00:57:55,210 --> 00:57:53,420
oceans yeah yeah so I mean they're hit

1208
00:57:57,010 --> 00:57:55,220
me they're very well could be an entire

1209
00:58:00,430 --> 00:57:57,020
civilization living here that we have no

1210
00:58:02,470 --> 00:58:00,440
idea about and we wouldn't know cuz why

1211
00:58:03,610 --> 00:58:02,480
the hell would we yeah definitely

1212
00:58:05,860 --> 00:58:03,620
definitely

1213
00:58:11,940 --> 00:58:05,870
I mean Admiral Berg talked about it

1214
00:58:18,070 --> 00:58:16,060
Arctic or they call it a crap I read

1215
00:58:20,230 --> 00:58:18,080
about this one this is what I want I

1216
00:58:22,630 --> 00:58:20,240
dunno and they basically went they

1217
00:58:24,490 --> 00:58:22,640
Arctica got their asses handed to them

1218
00:58:27,190 --> 00:58:24,500
and then hauled ass back to South

1219
00:58:28,270 --> 00:58:27,200
America yep for refueling yeah they're

1220
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:28,280
like what are you guys doing back so

1221
00:58:37,350 --> 00:58:34,810
something down there

1222
00:58:42,100 --> 00:58:37,360
now you don't want to mess with it right

1223
00:58:44,470 --> 00:58:42,110
yeah yeah I love the idea that there's

1224
00:58:46,870 --> 00:58:44,480
some civilization living on this planet

1225
00:58:49,060 --> 00:58:46,880
that we have no ID there it could be

1226
00:58:49,329 --> 00:58:49,070
really easy I feel like because if

1227
00:58:51,789 --> 00:58:49,339
you're

1228
00:58:53,410 --> 00:58:51,799
underground no no one could see it

1229
00:58:57,029 --> 00:58:53,420
unless you're digging underground and

1230
00:58:59,680 --> 00:58:57,039
all the stories are like you know

1231
00:59:01,150 --> 00:58:59,690
Hellyer again but with the we talked

1232
00:59:02,769 --> 00:59:01,160
about that earlier but like the cave

1233
00:59:04,630 --> 00:59:02,779
system I don't know if you've heard

1234
00:59:07,390 --> 00:59:04,640
about that Gary but Hellyer's about it

1235
00:59:09,459 --> 00:59:07,400
starts out about these this story about

1236
00:59:12,729 --> 00:59:09,469
these goblins coming out of mine shafts

1237
00:59:14,650 --> 00:59:12,739
and any uh I always forget the guys name

1238
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:14,660
they got a swinger shot off

1239
00:59:19,059 --> 00:59:17,450
that dudes name he was like suicided by

1240
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:19,069
the government we think cuz he had

1241
00:59:22,900 --> 00:59:21,170
oh yeah yeah I forget I forgot his name

1242
00:59:25,569 --> 00:59:22,910
he went down the he went down that shaft

1243
00:59:26,559 --> 00:59:25,579
I saw these gray aliens and they shot

1244
00:59:28,989 --> 00:59:26,569
something in his chest

1245
00:59:31,719 --> 00:59:28,999
uh-huh yeah but that guy's man it would

1246
00:59:33,249 --> 00:59:31,729
be I feel like humans are not only the

1247
00:59:34,719 --> 00:59:33,259
only time we're looking down as we're

1248
00:59:36,219 --> 00:59:34,729
looking at her phones and we're looking

1249
00:59:37,809 --> 00:59:36,229
straight forward when you're driving or

1250
00:59:39,279 --> 00:59:37,819
walking and we're never looking up and

1251
00:59:42,670 --> 00:59:39,289
it's just you know we don't believe

1252
00:59:46,239 --> 00:59:42,680
things until we see it or you know maybe

1253
00:59:47,559 --> 00:59:46,249
through enough people there are no

1254
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:47,569
reason to look up anymore there's no

1255
00:59:52,180 --> 00:59:50,450
threat from above mm-hmm yeah

1256
00:59:53,859 --> 00:59:52,190
that's a good point yeah they get things

1257
00:59:56,349 --> 00:59:53,869
being as me when it comes down to it

1258
00:59:58,839 --> 00:59:56,359
most of us are strongest instincts or

1259
01:00:00,729 --> 00:59:58,849
our primal ones and you know all of our

1260
01:00:02,469 --> 01:00:00,739
threats are always coming you know if we

1261
01:00:04,269 --> 01:00:02,479
live in the woods then we might have

1262
01:00:05,769 --> 01:00:04,279
threats from above or if we live

1263
01:00:07,719 --> 01:00:05,779
somewhere where there was a large

1264
01:00:09,249 --> 01:00:07,729
predator like a you know like some of

1265
01:00:11,890 --> 01:00:09,259
these big cats that live in the trees

1266
01:00:13,749 --> 01:00:11,900
but other than that we don't have any

1267
01:00:15,069 --> 01:00:13,759
reason to look up anymore or the apex

1268
01:00:16,749 --> 01:00:15,079
predators yep

1269
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:16,759
and most the time you can't see what's

1270
01:00:25,660 --> 01:00:18,170
above you anyways cuz there's so many

1271
01:00:30,940 --> 01:00:25,670
lights and you can when we went out to

1272
01:00:33,910 --> 01:00:30,950
that UFO con over there and Laughlin we

1273
01:00:35,650 --> 01:00:33,920
got to go out in a desert for one of

1274
01:00:37,509 --> 01:00:35,660
those UFO hunting things with the

1275
01:00:40,630 --> 01:00:37,519
night-vision goggles and the lasers and

1276
01:00:42,519 --> 01:00:40,640
everything and you could really tell the

1277
01:00:45,099 --> 01:00:42,529
difference from like where I live in

1278
01:00:47,410 --> 01:00:45,109
Florida and like out there in a desert

1279
01:00:51,459 --> 01:00:47,420
where there's just nothing and it was

1280
01:00:53,589 --> 01:00:51,469
like so amazing yeah I bet I bet did you

1281
01:00:57,539 --> 01:00:53,599
could you see the the Milky Way galaxy

1282
01:00:59,859 --> 01:00:57,549
from your angle or was it bright enough

1283
01:01:03,190 --> 01:00:59,869
yeah I mean it was it was absolutely

1284
01:01:07,540 --> 01:01:05,589
to do that and one night it was like a

1285
01:01:09,430 --> 01:01:07,550
lot of cloud cover and then the other

1286
01:01:11,079 --> 01:01:09,440
night it was just completely clear and

1287
01:01:13,420 --> 01:01:11,089
it was like he just Milky Way so

1288
01:01:14,530 --> 01:01:13,430
beautifully and you know you could see

1289
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:14,540
everything you know you see the

1290
01:01:19,060 --> 01:01:16,490
satellites going across you could see

1291
01:01:22,810 --> 01:01:19,070
mercury you could see Venus it was like

1292
01:01:24,460 --> 01:01:22,820
a really good night oh that's amazing so

1293
01:01:26,290 --> 01:01:24,470
when you do you look up at the stars

1294
01:01:28,210 --> 01:01:26,300
often I mean after this incident do you

1295
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:28,220
look up and wonder like hey is that you

1296
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:29,810
know am I looking at a satellite or do

1297
01:01:33,730 --> 01:01:31,730
you sometimes do you see some weird

1298
01:01:35,349 --> 01:01:33,740
stuff like that you're like oh well

1299
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:35,359
there's no blinking light on that thing

1300
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:40,730
I wonder learn as much as I should but

1301
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:42,410
every once in once in a while you step

1302
01:01:48,130 --> 01:01:45,170
outside and it'll be nice and dark yeah

1303
01:01:52,390 --> 01:01:48,140
yeah you just look up and it's just

1304
01:01:54,490 --> 01:01:52,400
perfect then stare at it for a couple of

1305
01:01:58,180 --> 01:01:54,500
minutes but then he you realize oh I got

1306
01:02:00,609 --> 01:01:58,190
other [\h__\h] I go definitely

1307
01:02:03,370 --> 01:02:00,619
so what about what about you PJ yeah man

1308
01:02:05,349 --> 01:02:03,380
what do you ever after this incident PJ

1309
01:02:07,359 --> 01:02:05,359
did you ever think like you ever look up

1310
01:02:10,540 --> 01:02:07,369
at the stars and just see like or just

1311
01:02:12,550 --> 01:02:10,550
think about man what what's up there see

1312
01:02:16,089 --> 01:02:12,560
anything weird like that and I also want

1313
01:02:18,099 --> 01:02:16,099
to know your theories as well yeah well

1314
01:02:24,130 --> 01:02:18,109
we'll get my theory out of the way cause

1315
01:02:27,730 --> 01:02:24,140
I'm like Ariel I have one if you if you

1316
01:02:29,740 --> 01:02:27,740
look at the two publicized incidents

1317
01:02:32,950 --> 01:02:29,750
with the Navy the one in 2004 that we're

1318
01:02:39,460 --> 01:02:32,960
a part of in the one I'm in 2015 there's

1319
01:02:41,740 --> 01:02:39,470
two distinct characteristics of the

1320
01:02:44,950 --> 01:02:41,750
operating environment at this time in

1321
01:02:49,150 --> 01:02:44,960
2004 the Nimitz Strike Group Gary ship

1322
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:49,160
my airplanes and Nimitz all had what was

1323
01:02:53,230 --> 01:02:50,690
top of the line at the time there was

1324
01:02:54,910 --> 01:02:53,240
nothing better we were testing stuff we

1325
01:02:59,760 --> 01:02:54,920
were doing all kinds of crazy stuff we

1326
01:03:02,740 --> 01:02:59,770
were the top of the line in 23rd 2004 in

1327
01:03:05,470 --> 01:03:02,750
2015 when it happened on the East Coast

1328
01:03:08,650 --> 01:03:05,480
that Carrier Strike Group had all the

1329
01:03:10,210 --> 01:03:08,660
latest toys had all the latest you know

1330
01:03:15,270 --> 01:03:10,220
technology what's the top of the line

1331
01:03:17,019 --> 01:03:15,280
and if I'm somebody on this planet

1332
01:03:19,630 --> 01:03:17,029
whether it's

1333
01:03:21,819 --> 01:03:19,640
another country testing technology I'm

1334
01:03:25,239 --> 01:03:21,829
gonna want to test it against the best

1335
01:03:26,919 --> 01:03:25,249
there is and coincidentally at the two

1336
01:03:32,769 --> 01:03:26,929
times there were major leaps and battle

1337
01:03:35,229 --> 01:03:32,779
technology stuff showed up yeah well you

1338
01:03:37,509 --> 01:03:35,239
know I still lead 50/50 between us and

1339
01:03:40,779 --> 01:03:37,519
who knows what else you know I'm not

1340
01:03:42,999 --> 01:03:40,789
sold on it but I definitely could see it

1341
01:03:45,039 --> 01:03:43,009
being our tech yeah I mean well that's

1342
01:03:47,649 --> 01:03:45,049
it that's definitely a very healthy

1343
01:03:50,799 --> 01:03:47,659
point of view you know it's it's you

1344
01:03:53,019 --> 01:03:50,809
know to be 5050 you know even though you

1345
01:03:55,029 --> 01:03:53,029
know me and Ben we love this stuff we're

1346
01:03:57,669 --> 01:03:55,039
we're in it you know what I'm saying but

1347
01:03:59,919 --> 01:03:57,679
there's always there always has to be

1348
01:04:02,199 --> 01:03:59,929
that speculation yeah you know it's our

1349
01:04:05,649 --> 01:04:02,209
stuff yeah yeah definitely definitely

1350
01:04:08,439 --> 01:04:05,659
because I mean I mean dude you know not

1351
01:04:11,049 --> 01:04:08,449
knowing anything you know really about

1352
01:04:13,509 --> 01:04:11,059
the military you know I mean you could

1353
01:04:15,669 --> 01:04:13,519
be just a regular person and know that

1354
01:04:17,349 --> 01:04:15,679
you know these guys have the top of the

1355
01:04:19,779 --> 01:04:17,359
line of this stuff and there's also

1356
01:04:22,209 --> 01:04:19,789
stuff that they don't even know about

1357
01:04:25,179 --> 01:04:22,219
that's that's being worked on right now

1358
01:04:29,620 --> 01:04:25,189
at this at this moment yeah exactly

1359
01:04:31,359 --> 01:04:29,630
so so is it is it possible I'm just you

1360
01:04:34,439 --> 01:04:31,369
know speculating that there is this

1361
01:04:36,579 --> 01:04:34,449
shadow government that like nobody

1362
01:04:38,109 --> 01:04:36,589
should know about because they're

1363
01:04:39,789 --> 01:04:38,119
working on the best of the best of the

1364
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:39,799
best I mean do you think it's a

1365
01:04:48,489 --> 01:04:42,650
possibility or what and I've heard every

1366
01:04:51,130 --> 01:04:48,499
whispers I mean Gary said it more than

1367
01:04:53,019 --> 01:04:51,140
once you know it turns out be ours you

1368
01:04:54,279 --> 01:04:53,029
know we're gonna have to revile evaluate

1369
01:04:55,899 --> 01:04:54,289
what we know about you know what's

1370
01:05:01,779 --> 01:04:55,909
possible physics and all that kind of

1371
01:05:04,419 --> 01:05:01,789
nerdy stuff that he likes you know I

1372
01:05:07,239 --> 01:05:04,429
worked as a defense contractor after I

1373
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:07,249
got out for Northrop Grumman and was

1374
01:05:11,769 --> 01:05:09,650
privy to some stuff that's relatively

1375
01:05:14,199 --> 01:05:11,779
public now but it wasn't at the time no

1376
01:05:16,359 --> 01:05:14,209
so there's stuff that I know about that

1377
01:05:17,739 --> 01:05:16,369
people don't I guarantee there's stuff

1378
01:05:20,349 --> 01:05:17,749
other people know about that I don't

1379
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:20,359
know about yeah yeah yeah well I mean

1380
01:05:27,789 --> 01:05:24,650
that's that's enough for me to to be

1381
01:05:28,370 --> 01:05:27,799
still honestly still 5050 right cuz yeah

1382
01:05:30,769 --> 01:05:28,380
I feel

1383
01:05:33,109 --> 01:05:30,779
absolutely it's not you know it's not

1384
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:33,119
you're not saying like I know for a fact

1385
01:05:36,049 --> 01:05:35,130
that it's it's always gonna be back

1386
01:05:38,450 --> 01:05:36,059
there

1387
01:05:43,069 --> 01:05:38,460
I just because you guys are the closest

1388
01:05:44,599 --> 01:05:43,079
to this stuff you know that's yeah yeah

1389
01:05:46,069 --> 01:05:44,609
yeah remember you're hitting the heart

1390
01:05:48,170 --> 01:05:46,079
of it you mean there's a reason why I

1391
01:05:50,539 --> 01:05:48,180
have so many different theories is

1392
01:05:52,430 --> 01:05:50,549
because there's just so many things like

1393
01:05:54,859 --> 01:05:52,440
when I do my mental experiments you know

1394
01:05:55,460 --> 01:05:54,869
I start with alright this is what it

1395
01:05:58,339 --> 01:05:55,470
could do

1396
01:06:00,019 --> 01:05:58,349
alright this is what I think has to

1397
01:06:02,509 --> 01:06:00,029
happen for this to have happened this

1398
01:06:03,979 --> 01:06:02,519
way and then okay well is this true if

1399
01:06:05,630 --> 01:06:03,989
this is true then this has to happen

1400
01:06:07,940 --> 01:06:05,640
then this has to happen then this and

1401
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:07,950
then I worked my way back on each theory

1402
01:06:12,979 --> 01:06:11,130
to see if it would work and then what if

1403
01:06:16,249 --> 01:06:12,989
it works all the way through to the

1404
01:06:19,519 --> 01:06:16,259
first sightings then I consider it a

1405
01:06:21,710 --> 01:06:19,529
valid theory yeah love that yeah

1406
01:06:24,460 --> 01:06:21,720
definitely love that definitely I mean

1407
01:06:28,460 --> 01:06:24,470
you know seeing this thing and knowing

1408
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:28,470
about advanced technology and knowing

1409
01:06:33,559 --> 01:06:29,970
you know certain things that other

1410
01:06:36,950 --> 01:06:33,569
people don't know you know when you when

1411
01:06:40,279 --> 01:06:36,960
you when you saw this and you saw the

1412
01:06:44,630 --> 01:06:40,289
way that it moved and the the maneuvers

1413
01:06:48,319 --> 01:06:44,640
that it made you know does this does

1414
01:06:51,079 --> 01:06:48,329
that say okay I think it is a piece of

1415
01:06:53,319 --> 01:06:51,089
technology whether it's ours or whether

1416
01:06:58,519 --> 01:06:53,329
it's somebody else's it doesn't matter

1417
01:07:00,589 --> 01:06:58,529
if it is ours did the thought of like is

1418
01:07:03,289 --> 01:07:00,599
there something inside of that ever

1419
01:07:05,479 --> 01:07:03,299
cross your mind because I mean from what

1420
01:07:08,180 --> 01:07:05,489
I hear these maneuvers I mean if if some

1421
01:07:09,109 --> 01:07:08,190
somebody was inside of these things like

1422
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:09,119
a human being

1423
01:07:16,130 --> 01:07:14,130
you'd be mush yeah yeah yeah yeah the

1424
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:16,140
inertia and the in the gravity I mean I

1425
01:07:20,690 --> 01:07:18,210
kind of goes back to Gary your theory

1426
01:07:23,900 --> 01:07:20,700
about it being some kind of biotech I

1427
01:07:26,450 --> 01:07:23,910
mean there's theories out there similar

1428
01:07:28,309 --> 01:07:26,460
but yeah I mean I just absolutely love

1429
01:07:29,989 --> 01:07:28,319
the first one that you brought up is

1430
01:07:32,690 --> 01:07:29,999
that it's just this old ancient

1431
01:07:35,180 --> 01:07:32,700
civilization tech that's just here and

1432
01:07:37,729 --> 01:07:35,190
it's just being controlled by a program

1433
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:37,739
that still exists and it's it's doing

1434
01:07:44,870 --> 01:07:38,970
its

1435
01:07:47,750 --> 01:07:44,880
you know drone kind of I guess recon

1436
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:47,760
around the world and there's really no

1437
01:07:51,980 --> 01:07:50,010
intelligence behind it but it's still

1438
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:51,990
kind of going on right like I love that

1439
01:07:56,329 --> 01:07:53,970
idea I mean there's this there's two

1440
01:08:00,829 --> 01:07:56,339
things it's like is it alive or is it

1441
01:08:03,829 --> 01:08:00,839
you know half alive is it yeah is itself

1442
01:08:08,930 --> 01:08:03,839
a piece of biotechnology you know well

1443
01:08:12,380 --> 01:08:08,940
is the craft like part litters oh look

1444
01:08:16,579 --> 01:08:12,390
at oh le d-- TVs that when I was working

1445
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:16,589
in tech we called those Organa the

1446
01:08:25,789 --> 01:08:19,170
organic LED TV or made up of like

1447
01:08:29,150 --> 01:08:25,799
actually live things inside of them have

1448
01:08:36,110 --> 01:08:29,160
you ever looked up that tech no I mean I

1449
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:36,120
watched I used to work in that stuff we

1450
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:41,250
called them by OLEDs not organic LED so

1451
01:08:48,050 --> 01:08:43,410
full circle on that algae you were

1452
01:08:53,809 --> 01:08:48,060
talking about earlier yeah so we got

1453
01:08:56,390 --> 01:08:53,819
shrimp on our TV sea-monkeys dude we

1454
01:08:58,340 --> 01:08:56,400
also see buggies on our TV man dude I

1455
01:09:00,950 --> 01:08:58,350
love that that's insane I had no idea

1456
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:00,960
that's super cool do you learn something

1457
01:09:09,860 --> 01:09:05,690
new every day holy crap

1458
01:09:12,470 --> 01:09:09,870
so when you guys were were so y'all were

1459
01:09:16,610 --> 01:09:12,480
y'all were out at the same time right

1460
01:09:19,249 --> 01:09:16,620
like when this incident happened how

1461
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:19,259
many how many days how many days ahead

1462
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:19,770
of time

1463
01:09:24,470 --> 01:09:22,290
were you guys tracking this stuff before

1464
01:09:26,329 --> 01:09:24,480
or did you even know that y'all were

1465
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:26,339
technically tracking this stuff like

1466
01:09:34,309 --> 01:09:29,250
before you know they they you know sit

1467
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:34,319
the the planes out to go check it out so

1468
01:09:41,329 --> 01:09:35,730
I'm gonna skip in front of him this time

1469
01:09:44,510 --> 01:09:41,339
okay he was out you know they got a

1470
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:44,520
whole week's worth stories I have you

1471
01:09:48,709 --> 01:09:46,770
know two hours on one day that's all I

1472
01:09:50,419 --> 01:09:48,719
can talk about I have no clue about

1473
01:09:52,789 --> 01:09:50,429
anything till after his act

1474
01:09:55,700 --> 01:09:52,799
really and is that

1475
01:09:58,839 --> 01:09:55,710
just because like you you had to go in

1476
01:10:02,060 --> 01:09:58,849
and take the information basically after

1477
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:02,070
after everything was was tracked or is

1478
01:10:09,620 --> 01:10:07,530
you know because I mean they we were

1479
01:10:11,930 --> 01:10:09,630
briefly told not to talk about it

1480
01:10:14,870 --> 01:10:11,940
nothing official just you know don't

1481
01:10:18,830 --> 01:10:14,880
talk when the plane came back you know

1482
01:10:23,030 --> 01:10:18,840
they came and took all my hard drives

1483
01:10:25,609 --> 01:10:23,040
that were on that plane when so they

1484
01:10:29,270 --> 01:10:25,619
took all my dad and you know it was one

1485
01:10:33,609 --> 01:10:29,280
of those I didn't pay attention to it

1486
01:10:36,919 --> 01:10:33,619
until I ran across babies documentary oh

1487
01:10:39,229 --> 01:10:36,929
damn so it's so like it wasn't until

1488
01:10:41,780 --> 01:10:39,239
after the fact till like all this stuff

1489
01:10:44,180 --> 01:10:41,790
kind of kind of broke that you were like

1490
01:10:46,669 --> 01:10:44,190
whoa that was something uh significant

1491
01:10:49,729 --> 01:10:46,679
that that happened yeah Wow I mean they

1492
01:10:51,470 --> 01:10:49,739
made they made jokes on the ship they

1493
01:10:52,850 --> 01:10:51,480
had a cartoon about it they they were

1494
01:10:56,510 --> 01:10:52,860
playing men in black another you know

1495
01:10:58,640 --> 01:10:56,520
space alien movies but ya know not

1496
01:11:01,160 --> 01:10:58,650
everybody had a clue why they were doing

1497
01:11:02,510 --> 01:11:01,170
that and it was just far as we were

1498
01:11:05,089 --> 01:11:02,520
concerned with people being stupid

1499
01:11:06,709 --> 01:11:05,099
yeah so that's kind of like how like the

1500
01:11:11,569 --> 01:11:06,719
Eagles didn't know that they were a big

1501
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:11,579
deal until like the eighties dude that's

1502
01:11:20,270 --> 01:11:17,090
a lot of drugs too much peyote man

1503
01:11:23,930 --> 01:11:20,280
that's crazy so but but Gary I mean like

1504
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:23,940
you you knew like what was going on the

1505
01:11:28,549 --> 01:11:26,010
whole time or was it kind of a similar

1506
01:11:30,919 --> 01:11:28,559
situation to where you didn't really you

1507
01:11:32,290 --> 01:11:30,929
know fully understand what was happening

1508
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:32,300
until after the fact

1509
01:11:37,790 --> 01:11:35,610
well the basically condense it is that

1510
01:11:39,589 --> 01:11:37,800
you know we started getting the unknown

1511
01:11:41,569 --> 01:11:39,599
track and they were coming and going so

1512
01:11:44,089 --> 01:11:41,579
we thought it was what we refer to as

1513
01:11:45,500 --> 01:11:44,099
clutter where like they were just fake

1514
01:11:47,660 --> 01:11:45,510
you know it was something that the

1515
01:11:50,899 --> 01:11:47,670
system was generating itself because it

1516
01:11:52,729 --> 01:11:50,909
calibrated it doesn't happen that often

1517
01:11:54,620 --> 01:11:52,739
but you know when he had something

1518
01:11:56,660 --> 01:11:54,630
unknown like that and it's not really

1519
01:11:58,580 --> 01:11:56,670
moving very fast at the time because

1520
01:11:59,990 --> 01:11:58,590
they were when we initially started

1521
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:00,000
tracking him they were only doing like a

1522
01:12:07,530 --> 01:12:04,930
hundred dots which is not very fast and

1523
01:12:10,310 --> 01:12:07,540
unless it's like well unless it's like a

1524
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:10,320
fleet of hot-air balloons or like like

1525
01:12:17,490 --> 01:12:13,330
really really really big ball also also

1526
01:12:19,410 --> 01:12:17,500
wood gliders you know I had can't you

1527
01:12:23,310 --> 01:12:19,420
couldn't really see something like that

1528
01:12:25,530 --> 01:12:23,320
only doing a hundred knots yes so yes so

1529
01:12:28,110 --> 01:12:25,540
we actually took all the spy system down

1530
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:28,120
the spy tech the spy guys worked

1531
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:30,970
directly on the radars they you know

1532
01:12:34,860 --> 01:12:32,290
they they took it all down and

1533
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:34,870
recalibrated it and I basically in my

1534
01:12:38,850 --> 01:12:36,370
job at when they're doing that it's just

1535
01:12:41,100 --> 01:12:38,860
a standby this little like this little

1536
01:12:44,580 --> 01:12:41,110
six speaker and listen from wait for

1537
01:12:46,620 --> 01:12:44,590
them to say alright reload the 43 which

1538
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:46,630
is the computer system the computer that

1539
01:12:50,730 --> 01:12:49,090
runs that system because that was my

1540
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:50,740
baby and then so I was just standing by

1541
01:12:56,130 --> 01:12:53,410
you know every like 13 minutes or so

1542
01:12:58,980 --> 01:12:56,140
alright reloading the 43 alright

1543
01:13:01,350 --> 01:12:58,990
reloading the 43 done you know and then

1544
01:13:04,140 --> 01:13:01,360
back and forth for like a long time and

1545
01:13:06,390 --> 01:13:04,150
then once it's all done then we bring

1546
01:13:08,700 --> 01:13:06,400
the system back up and sure enough we

1547
01:13:10,980 --> 01:13:08,710
still have the tracks except we actually

1548
01:13:12,450 --> 01:13:10,990
have a better lock on them and it they

1549
01:13:15,030 --> 01:13:12,460
look clearer and it's a hundred percent

1550
01:13:19,170 --> 01:13:15,040
sure that do we have a solid object that

1551
01:13:20,850 --> 01:13:19,180
we're tracking yeah so so man I've heard

1552
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:20,860
I've heard multiple different things

1553
01:13:26,870 --> 01:13:23,730
like I've heard that you guys tracked a

1554
01:13:30,630 --> 01:13:26,880
hundred of these things I've heard fifty

1555
01:13:33,690 --> 01:13:30,640
I'll clear that up alright so senior

1556
01:13:37,500 --> 01:13:33,700
chief de got real excited when he was

1557
01:13:40,140 --> 01:13:37,510
talking about it and he was referring to

1558
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:40,150
like all of the tracks over the whole

1559
01:13:44,370 --> 01:13:41,530
week because we were getting between

1560
01:13:46,290 --> 01:13:44,380
three and ten of them tracking at a time

1561
01:13:47,490 --> 01:13:46,300
now they could be the same they could

1562
01:13:51,930 --> 01:13:47,500
have been the same ships that we were

1563
01:13:54,450 --> 01:13:51,940
just trip over and over again but he was

1564
01:13:57,740 --> 01:13:54,460
referring to every back over the entire

1565
01:14:00,630 --> 01:13:57,750
week there was over a hundred up yeah so

1566
01:14:02,460 --> 01:14:00,640
over a hundred times we had multiple

1567
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:02,470
tracks you know so it's it's yeah so

1568
01:14:08,340 --> 01:14:06,010
it's in the official report that the

1569
01:14:12,570 --> 01:14:08,350
Navy kind of haphazardly put the pizza

1570
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:12,580
in 2007 and then again in 2015 they they

1571
01:14:17,729 --> 01:14:15,250
only interviewed like a handful of

1572
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:17,739
people and they kind he went what I want

1573
01:14:22,259 --> 01:14:19,570
actually got the gist of what the report

1574
01:14:24,629 --> 01:14:22,269
said I get had a lot of feel of like

1575
01:14:26,910 --> 01:14:24,639
alright we just want to put a put up put

1576
01:14:29,100 --> 01:14:26,920
a lid on this and close this up and tie

1577
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:29,110
it up in a nice little bow and call it

1578
01:14:33,540 --> 01:14:32,050
good yeah it wasn't even the right

1579
01:14:36,270 --> 01:14:33,550
people they were talking to in that

1580
01:14:38,250 --> 01:14:36,280
report no it was like nobody they really

1581
01:14:40,859 --> 01:14:38,260
had any clue what was going on really

1582
01:14:43,169 --> 01:14:40,869
yeah I mean they did but they were all

1583
01:14:45,060 --> 01:14:43,179
active duty and they all had careers so

1584
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:45,070
they're gonna say exactly they're gonna

1585
01:14:52,020 --> 01:14:47,050
say exactly what little they need to do

1586
01:14:53,489 --> 01:14:52,030
to not sound nuts and the continued yeah

1587
01:14:58,739 --> 01:14:53,499
they were just the guys that watched the

1588
01:15:00,779 --> 01:14:58,749
mini black movie I think they're only

1589
01:15:07,890 --> 01:15:00,789
the guys that we're still in and that's

1590
01:15:11,729 --> 01:15:07,900
it so they've got was definitely nuts

1591
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:11,739
and he was a complete [\h__\h] yeah yeah so

1592
01:15:21,239 --> 01:15:15,130
is one of those in the group yeah many

1593
01:15:24,180 --> 01:15:21,249
names on that one but yeah he was damn

1594
01:15:28,770 --> 01:15:24,190
that's crazy man so can you can you also

1595
01:15:32,729 --> 01:15:28,780
clarify the the speed at which it went

1596
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:32,739
from what was it in 25,000 feet below

1597
01:15:38,310 --> 01:15:35,050
sea level like the speed that it dropped

1598
01:15:41,279 --> 01:15:38,320
though the below sea level thing came

1599
01:15:44,100 --> 01:15:41,289
from sonar technician that was talking

1600
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:44,110
to me during the event he was he told me

1601
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:46,690
that it went from like from his mouth to

1602
01:15:53,279 --> 01:15:50,050
my ears he said it goes it went from 20

1603
01:15:56,459 --> 01:15:53,289
yards 28 down below sea level up the

1604
01:15:59,939 --> 01:15:56,469
negative 500 in like less than a second

1605
01:16:01,620 --> 01:15:59,949
yeah which is ridiculous speed and Plus

1606
01:16:05,009 --> 01:16:01,630
you know the impact of hitting the water

1607
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:05,019
and then he but I can't substantiate

1608
01:16:10,620 --> 01:16:07,090
that claim though that's the problem

1609
01:16:12,060 --> 01:16:10,630
it's business person that at now wants

1610
01:16:13,109 --> 01:16:12,070
nothing to do with it he doesn't you

1611
01:16:15,089 --> 01:16:13,119
know that was something he was

1612
01:16:19,319 --> 01:16:15,099
bullshitting with me on the ship with

1613
01:16:20,669 --> 01:16:19,329
yeah and then now he's dead so I can't

1614
01:16:23,250 --> 01:16:20,679
even find out where he heard that

1615
01:16:26,069 --> 01:16:23,260
because I know it didn't come from our

1616
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:26,079
ship guest lead sonar technician on the

1617
01:16:28,979 --> 01:16:27,610
ship was a good friend of mine that

1618
01:16:30,220 --> 01:16:28,989
actually got ahold of me and let me know

1619
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:30,230
hey that

1620
01:16:33,670 --> 01:16:31,370
the information that you could have

1621
01:16:35,770 --> 01:16:33,680
gotten from the Princeton because the

1622
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:35,780
sonar techs on the Princeton in order to

1623
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:37,610
be able to triangulate and gain gate

1624
01:16:42,729 --> 01:16:40,370
gage speed with with sonar you have to

1625
01:16:46,150 --> 01:16:42,739
have this special tail that drags behind

1626
01:16:48,670 --> 01:16:46,160
the ship that has our buoys and all of

1627
01:16:50,710 --> 01:16:48,680
them pulse at the same time allowing

1628
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:50,720
them to triangulate targets under the

1629
01:17:00,250 --> 01:16:56,890
water maybe that's not evading sorry

1630
01:17:03,190 --> 01:17:00,260
yeah so we didn't have the to our tail

1631
01:17:04,870 --> 01:17:03,200
in the water he knows for a fact that

1632
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:04,880
none of that information could have come

1633
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:07,610
from the actual Princeton but it doesn't

1634
01:17:11,380 --> 01:17:09,170
mean that another ship didn't have

1635
01:17:15,130 --> 01:17:11,390
theirs in or that the carrier didn't get

1636
01:17:16,870 --> 01:17:15,140
an active contact on it yes but I I can

1637
01:17:19,540 --> 01:17:16,880
only say for certain that it was not

1638
01:17:21,610 --> 01:17:19,550
print and because the guy I think it's

1639
01:17:23,530 --> 01:17:21,620
one of the bleed sonar technician at the

1640
01:17:25,750 --> 01:17:23,540
time that actually ran that shop so on

1641
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:25,760
that went ahead and let me know you know

1642
01:17:29,729 --> 01:17:27,530
hey that's that's that's not something

1643
01:17:32,170 --> 01:17:29,739
he got from information from our ship so

1644
01:17:34,090 --> 01:17:32,180
if he did get the information it would

1645
01:17:35,950 --> 01:17:34,100
have been on a back channel talking over

1646
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:35,960
to someone of the sonar guys on another

1647
01:17:41,290 --> 01:17:39,170
ship or even possibly it might even

1648
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:41,300
become even come from the exhibit that

1649
01:17:48,370 --> 01:17:45,770
the sub itself but we do know that these

1650
01:17:51,370 --> 01:17:48,380
things were hauling ass at some point in

1651
01:17:52,690 --> 01:17:51,380
time they were they were hauling ass but

1652
01:17:54,340 --> 01:17:52,700
I just can't confirm that they went

1653
01:17:56,770 --> 01:17:54,350
underwater that's the only thing I can't

1654
01:17:58,479 --> 01:17:56,780
confirm yeah yeah because until this

1655
01:17:59,830 --> 01:17:58,489
guys weren't really willing to talk to

1656
01:18:01,600 --> 01:17:59,840
me I mean even if I could just get him

1657
01:18:04,930 --> 01:18:01,610
on the phone and tell me in his own

1658
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:04,940
words yes I got it from this there this

1659
01:18:09,870 --> 01:18:07,489
is the source that I got him from this

1660
01:18:12,250 --> 01:18:09,880
is what they told me this is how I know

1661
01:18:14,590 --> 01:18:12,260
then I'd feel more comfortable with it

1662
01:18:15,910 --> 01:18:14,600
but you know on the first interviews I'm

1663
01:18:19,390 --> 01:18:15,920
just telling them everything that I

1664
01:18:21,100 --> 01:18:19,400
heard and I know you know so it was

1665
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:21,110
something I heard so I I told them about

1666
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:23,330
it and then you know wasn't until later

1667
01:18:26,890 --> 01:18:25,130
on that I started getting feedback from

1668
01:18:28,390 --> 01:18:26,900
my old shipmates you know saying hey man

1669
01:18:30,070 --> 01:18:28,400
you know what hell you talking about

1670
01:18:31,780 --> 01:18:30,080
because you know it could have been

1671
01:18:35,310 --> 01:18:31,790
because of this this and this because

1672
01:18:37,330 --> 01:18:35,320
you know everybody loves the correct you

1673
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:37,340
nobody's got the nuts to come out and

1674
01:18:41,070 --> 01:18:38,930
talk about it but they love to correct

1675
01:18:43,750 --> 01:18:41,080
you and you're wrong so any time like

1676
01:18:46,959 --> 01:18:43,760
any time I'm corrected and the people

1677
01:18:49,300 --> 01:18:46,969
have like actually you know sound okay

1678
01:18:50,740 --> 01:18:49,310
this is why what you said couldn't have

1679
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:50,750
happened because of this this and this

1680
01:18:55,030 --> 01:18:52,850
and this and I'm like all right yeah no

1681
01:18:57,580 --> 01:18:55,040
problem yeah you know what you're

1682
01:18:59,080 --> 01:18:57,590
definitely right so I'll go ahead and go

1683
01:19:00,970 --> 01:18:59,090
on a public forum and make sure I

1684
01:19:03,459 --> 01:19:00,980
retract these things that's for this and

1685
01:19:05,410 --> 01:19:03,469
then so I've been trying to be

1686
01:19:08,050 --> 01:19:05,420
transparent as possible anytime because

1687
01:19:11,350 --> 01:19:08,060
you remember it's a 14 15 year old story

1688
01:19:17,470 --> 01:19:11,360
that I've only told a couple of people

1689
01:19:19,209 --> 01:19:17,480
when I got drunk I mean my whole passion

1690
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:19,219
since then is in the back of my head

1691
01:19:23,020 --> 01:19:20,810
just thinking up ways that these things

1692
01:19:24,459 --> 01:19:23,030
could exist and how they could exist and

1693
01:19:26,979 --> 01:19:24,469
what the technology is and how that

1694
01:19:28,510 --> 01:19:26,989
worked and I didn't care who they were I

1695
01:19:29,860 --> 01:19:28,520
didn't care whose tech it was I just

1696
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:29,870
wanted to know how they worked and I

1697
01:19:42,910 --> 01:19:34,370
wanted to fly one could you imagine how

1698
01:19:45,190 --> 01:19:42,920
fun that would be my brain it works even

1699
01:19:46,660 --> 01:19:45,200
better than that you roll in like you

1700
01:19:51,310 --> 01:19:46,670
ever seen the old movie flight of the

1701
01:19:52,990 --> 01:19:51,320
navigator yeah into that stupid little

1702
01:20:03,490 --> 01:19:53,000
silver chair and it's just everything's

1703
01:20:12,100 --> 01:20:03,500
by thought process you just what do you

1704
01:20:19,300 --> 01:20:12,110
think about me now your new boyfriend

1705
01:20:22,930 --> 01:20:19,310
tries on the Civic PJs so I wanted to

1706
01:20:25,450 --> 01:20:22,940
ask you dude um so do I mean well I

1707
01:20:28,300 --> 01:20:25,460
guess for both you I mean do you do you

1708
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:28,310
know who who came and took your tapes

1709
01:20:35,500 --> 01:20:29,770
away

1710
01:20:37,660 --> 01:20:35,510
no forget he's got two different guys on

1711
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:37,670
his ship than I got on mine but the do

1712
01:20:42,490 --> 01:20:39,530
guys I showed up with my commanding

1713
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:42,500
officer and we're wearing Air Force

1714
01:20:48,850 --> 01:20:46,489
flight suits and they went and what they

1715
01:20:52,030 --> 01:20:48,860
did after that I have no clue so they

1716
01:20:56,230 --> 01:20:52,040
were French coats black hats sunglasses

1717
01:20:57,880 --> 01:20:56,240
right right

1718
01:21:01,570 --> 01:20:57,890
there was no men in black they were just

1719
01:21:03,490 --> 01:21:01,580
very normal quotes on my [\h__\h] so they

1720
01:21:05,290 --> 01:21:03,500
were wearing like polos and I mean I'm

1721
01:21:07,750 --> 01:21:05,300
just trying to picture these guys it's

1722
01:21:09,550 --> 01:21:07,760
like just think of like I think think of

1723
01:21:11,470 --> 01:21:09,560
any guy you've ever seen like in an

1724
01:21:13,270 --> 01:21:11,480
office that's not dressed to the nine so

1725
01:21:14,190 --> 01:21:13,280
you know like you know khakis and I had

1726
01:21:17,110 --> 01:21:14,200
like a

1727
01:21:22,390 --> 01:21:17,120
forget about you know just uh not you

1728
01:21:24,340 --> 01:21:22,400
know like what is that a plan oh yeah Oh

1729
01:21:26,350 --> 01:21:24,350
think of a guy in like khaki jeans a

1730
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:26,360
polo and like a windbreaker there you go

1731
01:21:30,490 --> 01:21:28,010
there you got that it's a style of the

1732
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:30,500
guys you're like damn some guy in khakis

1733
01:21:34,150 --> 01:21:32,210
just took top-secret information well

1734
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:34,160
yeah his name was probably like Jeff or

1735
01:21:40,480 --> 01:21:37,850
something probably [\h__\h] Greg [\h__\h]

1736
01:21:48,780 --> 01:21:40,490
great if you are in episode 18 you know

1737
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:48,790
we don't like Greg just listen 18 today

1738
01:21:53,770 --> 01:21:51,770
awesome yeah we had Doug on that episode

1739
01:21:59,470 --> 01:21:53,780
too Doug's a cool ass dude yeah he's

1740
01:22:02,950 --> 01:21:59,480
cool house good episode dude but man I

1741
01:22:05,350 --> 01:22:02,960
mean like so you know it you guys you

1742
01:22:06,700 --> 01:22:05,360
guys went through this right you're

1743
01:22:10,450 --> 01:22:06,710
sitting there on all this information

1744
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:10,460
and then all of a sudden guys and khakis

1745
01:22:15,210 --> 01:22:13,730
show up take your [\h__\h] and leave like I

1746
01:22:20,020 --> 01:22:15,220
mean what is what is the thought process

1747
01:22:22,690 --> 01:22:20,030
after that you know yeah the thing they

1748
01:22:24,070 --> 01:22:22,700
kind of like struck me funny is cuz like

1749
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:24,080
all right so if there's an incident that

1750
01:22:30,610 --> 01:22:27,770
happens you know it I've had my tapes

1751
01:22:33,370 --> 01:22:30,620
taken before when there was a flight

1752
01:22:36,550 --> 01:22:33,380
that went down in the Gulf when we were

1753
01:22:38,170 --> 01:22:36,560
back in the during the war and you know

1754
01:22:41,380 --> 01:22:38,180
we had you know people in the water

1755
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:41,390
and it was an event that happened so it

1756
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:42,650
wasn't surprised that they wanted the

1757
01:22:46,330 --> 01:22:44,810
tapes for it but you know they never

1758
01:22:48,220 --> 01:22:46,340
said anything past just give me the

1759
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:48,230
tapes from you know when we were when we

1760
01:22:51,850 --> 01:22:49,610
were you know when it went down

1761
01:22:54,190 --> 01:22:51,860
all right cool give me the time get the

1762
01:22:56,590 --> 01:22:54,200
tapes give them to him but there was no

1763
01:22:58,300 --> 01:22:56,600
other directions after that the ones

1764
01:23:00,580 --> 01:22:58,310
things bothered me is that they directed

1765
01:23:03,010 --> 01:23:00,590
me that they wanted all the tapes they

1766
01:23:04,480 --> 01:23:03,020
had any data on them and then anything

1767
01:23:07,480 --> 01:23:04,490
that even even if it was still in the

1768
01:23:09,189 --> 01:23:07,490
plastic wrapped up and not used yet it

1769
01:23:12,340 --> 01:23:09,199
needed to be deleted

1770
01:23:14,050 --> 01:23:12,350
so that every single tape in my shop had

1771
01:23:16,060 --> 01:23:14,060
time stamp on it so that if they ever

1772
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:16,070
went back if it didn't have the time

1773
01:23:22,150 --> 01:23:18,770
stamp of right then in during that day

1774
01:23:24,189 --> 01:23:22,160
or in the future that it was considered

1775
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:24,199
that you know I might have stolen some

1776
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:29,210
tapes or something yeah that's that's

1777
01:23:33,340 --> 01:23:30,650
okay that's [\h__\h] crazy

1778
01:23:37,300 --> 01:23:33,350
yeah that is insane I mean yeah so

1779
01:23:39,729 --> 01:23:37,310
that's a huge red flag I mean yeah I I

1780
01:23:41,590 --> 01:23:39,739
listen to one of your debate dead honest

1781
01:23:42,700 --> 01:23:41,600
with you that's really other than the

1782
01:23:44,770 --> 01:23:42,710
fact that we were tracking unknown

1783
01:23:48,939 --> 01:23:44,780
aircrafts and I saw I got to see this

1784
01:23:52,090 --> 01:23:48,949
video those are the only three things

1785
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:52,100
that were like but he was just like oh

1786
01:23:56,979 --> 01:23:55,010
that's weird you know but I mean it was

1787
01:23:58,510 --> 01:23:56,989
like super weird by the training command

1788
01:24:00,790 --> 01:23:58,520
because it seemed like they just like

1789
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:00,800
either a want to just like pretend like

1790
01:24:05,050 --> 01:24:03,410
this wasn't happening like there's no

1791
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:05,060
way we're gonna report this [\h__\h] because

1792
01:24:17,229 --> 01:24:14,410
I am so making Admiral a promotion yet

1793
01:24:19,060 --> 01:24:17,239
and at the time our captain was one of

1794
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:19,070
those go captain go get her captain's

1795
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:20,449
you know he was something was definitely

1796
01:24:25,390 --> 01:24:23,650
aligning a line officer looking for

1797
01:24:28,930 --> 01:24:25,400
promotion because he was owing

1798
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:28,940
voluntariness frock high and then doing

1799
01:24:33,700 --> 01:24:30,650
all kinds of crazy I'm trying to be the

1800
01:24:35,919 --> 01:24:33,710
premier guy so it wouldn't surprise me

1801
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:35,929
if he was just trying to ignore the

1802
01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:38,330
whole event at first yeah we don't have

1803
01:24:42,550 --> 01:24:40,370
to explain why they waited waited so

1804
01:24:44,979 --> 01:24:42,560
long to do the interrogation right it's

1805
01:24:47,830 --> 01:24:44,989
happens has to be like looking for you

1806
01:24:49,180 --> 01:24:47,840
know objectively from his eyes it's like

1807
01:24:51,459 --> 01:24:49,190
man I don't want to stir the pot like

1808
01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:51,469
I've got one more whatever one more

1809
01:24:55,570 --> 01:24:53,690
month or one more year yeah I'm good

1810
01:24:57,640 --> 01:24:55,580
like this not make a big deal about oh

1811
01:25:00,550 --> 01:24:57,650
well [\h__\h] when so-and-so was in charge

1812
01:25:01,209 --> 01:25:00,560
all these [\h__\h] UFOs came down like it

1813
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:01,219
was his fault

1814
01:25:12,300 --> 01:25:08,690
yeah had a nickname captain red so I

1815
01:25:18,550 --> 01:25:16,660
and $10 eise's bread did not like

1816
01:25:23,530 --> 01:25:18,560
anything that wasn't exactly the way he

1817
01:25:24,790 --> 01:25:23,540
wanted it ya know so PJ I think it was

1818
01:25:26,950 --> 01:25:24,800
you that I heard in an interview you

1819
01:25:29,650 --> 01:25:26,960
were saying that it was it was rare for

1820
01:25:32,830 --> 01:25:29,660
Air Force guys to just show up on the

1821
01:25:35,770 --> 01:25:32,840
ship and and do this so you thought that

1822
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:35,780
was kind of odd whenever whenever they

1823
01:25:41,020 --> 01:25:38,810
showed up right I mean where my

1824
01:25:42,820 --> 01:25:41,030
commanding officers stayed where his

1825
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:42,830
stateroom was where the reading room was

1826
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:45,770
and where my work Center was on the ship

1827
01:25:50,140 --> 01:25:48,770
if he wanted to talk to us we went to

1828
01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:50,150
him he didn't want her down to our

1829
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:53,090
little workspace so odd fact number one

1830
01:25:58,000 --> 01:25:54,770
is that fact that he's knocking on the

1831
01:25:59,860 --> 01:25:58,010
door yeah you know and you added to the

1832
01:26:03,870 --> 01:25:59,870
fact that there's two guys in Air Force

1833
01:26:06,940 --> 01:26:03,880
uniforms they stick out like you know

1834
01:26:09,100 --> 01:26:06,950
they stick out yeah it's hard to like

1835
01:26:13,110 --> 01:26:09,110
read thumbs like hey aren't you guys

1836
01:26:17,290 --> 01:26:15,460
well we're out to sea there's really

1837
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:17,300
only two ways onto that carrier

1838
01:26:24,250 --> 01:26:20,930
helicopter or cod cod is the twin to my

1839
01:26:26,770 --> 01:26:24,260
airplane it's a sister to it you know

1840
01:26:30,250 --> 01:26:26,780
when we were out to sea we caught the

1841
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:30,260
cod so I knew you know all the time I

1842
01:26:31,990 --> 01:26:31,610
could tell who's coming on and off the

1843
01:26:33,730 --> 01:26:32,000
ship

1844
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:33,740
yeah no I would have noticed them

1845
01:26:37,420 --> 01:26:36,530
getting on or off so I still don't have

1846
01:26:38,740 --> 01:26:37,430
that they had to have come on the

1847
01:26:42,850 --> 01:26:38,750
helicopter which makes sense when you

1848
01:26:45,480 --> 01:26:42,860
talk about Gary and we were only maybe

1849
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:45,490
45 minutes flight time for for a helo

1850
01:26:50,700 --> 01:26:48,010
from San Diego where we were ourselves

1851
01:26:53,110 --> 01:26:50,710
yeah they were like several spots

1852
01:26:55,390 --> 01:26:53,120
mainland for that helicopter could have

1853
01:26:57,370 --> 01:26:55,400
flown out to us yeah I'm just gonna

1854
01:26:59,920 --> 01:26:57,380
clarify what helo means this helicopter

1855
01:27:08,680 --> 01:26:59,930
right it's I recently was like damn

1856
01:27:13,480 --> 01:27:08,690
that's such a cool was so did you guys

1857
01:27:15,250 --> 01:27:13,490
have to sign NDA's oh yeah no no as far

1858
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:15,260
as far as I know the only the only

1859
01:27:21,450 --> 01:27:17,690
people that had to sign one was the the

1860
01:27:27,310 --> 01:27:21,460
Hawkeye flight crew yep

1861
01:27:29,290 --> 01:27:27,320
okay yeah one of the guys I was an

1862
01:27:32,740 --> 01:27:29,300
enlisted Tech one of the guys did the

1863
01:27:34,900 --> 01:27:32,750
same job as I did he was our go-to guy

1864
01:27:39,250 --> 01:27:34,910
for CC so he was up there doing some

1865
01:27:40,570 --> 01:27:39,260
seedy stuff on that flight so he doesn't

1866
01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:40,580
want to come forward because he's still

1867
01:27:48,820 --> 01:27:42,530
in the contracting business with the

1868
01:27:52,420 --> 01:27:48,830
government and they were debriefed right

1869
01:27:54,700 --> 01:27:52,430
when they got back and my rough

1870
01:27:59,460 --> 01:27:54,710
remembrance of the time LOM completely

1871
01:28:02,080 --> 01:27:59,470
sorts completely supports his timeline

1872
01:28:04,780 --> 01:28:02,090
but one of the little known facts that

1873
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:04,790
he shared other than caught or basically

1874
01:28:08,980 --> 01:28:07,250
backing up what I've said is that the

1875
01:28:13,290 --> 01:28:08,990
Tic Tac actually formed up with the

1876
01:28:16,060 --> 01:28:13,300
Hawkeye very briefly a highly publicized

1877
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:16,070
portion of the event but on the five

1878
01:28:20,610 --> 01:28:18,050
dives in that panic they could see it

1879
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:20,620
through their little port window yeah

1880
01:28:29,500 --> 01:28:27,770
did you ever talk sorry no there was way

1881
01:28:32,110 --> 01:28:29,510
back when I first reached out to Dave

1882
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:32,120
Beatty you know he was clarifying some

1883
01:28:36,430 --> 01:28:33,890
stuff and I provided Dave with all kinds

1884
01:28:37,780 --> 01:28:36,440
of support and documentary documentation

1885
01:28:40,630 --> 01:28:37,790
to prove that I wasn't some kook trying

1886
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:40,640
to get in on the game but I forget who

1887
01:28:44,830 --> 01:28:42,890
he was talking to but they're coming

1888
01:28:47,230 --> 01:28:44,840
back and they're saying oh the guys in

1889
01:28:49,480 --> 01:28:47,240
the Hawkeye they can't see they don't

1890
01:28:50,970 --> 01:28:49,490
have windows so I had to send him a

1891
01:28:55,810 --> 01:28:50,980
picture of the Hawkeye and it's windows

1892
01:28:57,250 --> 01:28:55,820
they're like oh you know the the 80s he

1893
01:28:59,440 --> 01:28:57,260
listed guys they don't fly in planes

1894
01:29:01,240 --> 01:28:59,450
anymore so I had to send him a picture

1895
01:29:05,050 --> 01:29:01,250
of my buddy sitting in the back of the

1896
01:29:06,490 --> 01:29:05,060
airplane born you know so I kept you

1897
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:06,500
know so many people have misinformation

1898
01:29:10,990 --> 01:29:08,930
about the Hawkeye it's hilarious yeah

1899
01:29:13,330 --> 01:29:11,000
it's just so many people that just don't

1900
01:29:15,010 --> 01:29:13,340
understand you know it's like they'll

1901
01:29:18,190 --> 01:29:15,020
read like in one little article about

1902
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:18,200
like what they plan on doing in the

1903
01:29:23,590 --> 01:29:21,410
future or you know and they won't like

1904
01:29:25,330 --> 01:29:23,600
look it like the timeframe like they'll

1905
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:25,340
go look it up and I'd be like yeah now

1906
01:29:29,860 --> 01:29:27,890
in 2016 or whenever it was they looked

1907
01:29:34,900 --> 01:29:29,870
at it up now this is how they do it but

1908
01:29:36,580 --> 01:29:34,910
what do they do in 2004 you know yeah

1909
01:29:40,030 --> 01:29:36,590
those are such little details that like

1910
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:40,040
and unless you're reading like sometimes

1911
01:29:43,480 --> 01:29:42,170
it would maybe take a book to go through

1912
01:29:45,700 --> 01:29:43,490
all this stuff or maybe just this

1913
01:29:46,990 --> 01:29:45,710
podcast I don't know but but little

1914
01:29:49,180 --> 01:29:47,000
details like that that people miss that

1915
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:49,190
about misinformation like you're saying

1916
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:51,650
some people saying oh well that couldn't

1917
01:29:55,060 --> 01:29:53,570
happen cuz this particular aircraft does

1918
01:29:56,920 --> 01:29:55,070
not have any UFOs so there couldn't have

1919
01:29:59,650 --> 01:29:56,930
been any eyewitnesses but and in fact

1920
01:30:01,120 --> 01:29:59,660
they have freaking freaking windows and

1921
01:30:04,060 --> 01:30:01,130
that that's just not true

1922
01:30:06,700 --> 01:30:04,070
mark Mike next question would be like I

1923
01:30:08,530 --> 01:30:06,710
mean was did you did you guys ever you

1924
01:30:11,860 --> 01:30:08,540
know have lunch or talk to anybody that

1925
01:30:13,870 --> 01:30:11,870
that was it similar to what you guys had

1926
01:30:16,030 --> 01:30:13,880
witnessed in like the shape of this

1927
01:30:17,770 --> 01:30:16,040
thing did everybody just say Tic Tacs so

1928
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:17,780
everybody just agreed okay it looked

1929
01:30:23,380 --> 01:30:20,330
like a tic-tac or was there any kind of

1930
01:30:25,180 --> 01:30:23,390
you know back and forth like oh I saw it

1931
01:30:27,070 --> 01:30:25,190
was an almond shape kind of like the

1932
01:30:29,740 --> 01:30:27,080
flight of the navigator right here yeah

1933
01:30:31,870 --> 01:30:29,750
yeah I think I think just about

1934
01:30:34,150 --> 01:30:31,880
everybody you know I mean we saw the

1935
01:30:37,030 --> 01:30:34,160
like everybody that was you know I had

1936
01:30:38,830 --> 01:30:37,040
access to the secret lands on my ship we

1937
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:38,840
all kind of agree yeah it's it's a

1938
01:30:46,090 --> 01:30:43,130
definitely a tic-tac shape and so what

1939
01:30:48,990 --> 01:30:46,100
about so we we know about the tic-tac

1940
01:30:52,090 --> 01:30:49,000
and then and then there's the other one

1941
01:30:54,130 --> 01:30:52,100
and I think that's in like the the with

1942
01:30:56,440 --> 01:30:54,140
the thermal camera yes the one that that

1943
01:30:59,020 --> 01:30:56,450
rotate Jim onto its side the gimbal

1944
01:31:00,850 --> 01:30:59,030
footage so you're talking about actually

1945
01:31:03,490 --> 01:31:00,860
two separate events to be honest with

1946
01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:03,500
you okay so the 2004 event but as the

1947
01:31:10,660 --> 01:31:09,050
the the the FLIR footage that flips the

1948
01:31:13,870 --> 01:31:10,670
camera through where it just kind of

1949
01:31:16,900 --> 01:31:13,880
zips off the screen mm-hm and then you

1950
01:31:19,330 --> 01:31:16,910
have the gimbal which was actually 2015

1951
01:31:22,570 --> 01:31:19,340
off the East Coast

1952
01:31:24,190 --> 01:31:22,580
yeah yes yes so it's that they were

1953
01:31:25,900 --> 01:31:24,200
doing basically the same thing we were

1954
01:31:28,150 --> 01:31:25,910
doing is training missions off the coat

1955
01:31:29,650 --> 01:31:28,160
east coast and they ran into these

1956
01:31:31,660 --> 01:31:29,660
things that started tracking them and

1957
01:31:33,850 --> 01:31:31,670
then filmed them with their with their

1958
01:31:35,830 --> 01:31:33,860
cameras and they actually got better

1959
01:31:37,630 --> 01:31:35,840
footage than we did in the longer video

1960
01:31:39,670 --> 01:31:37,640
than we did or at least that's it

1961
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:39,680
survived because it's so much newer than

1962
01:31:45,700 --> 01:31:43,970
ours like guys like right now you know

1963
01:31:47,470 --> 01:31:45,710
it's like the Navy worded their their

1964
01:31:48,140 --> 01:31:47,480
stuff that just came out very carefully

1965
01:32:20,240 --> 01:31:48,150
the

1966
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:20,250
argument should be no more yeah well

1967
01:32:24,229 --> 01:32:22,170
there yeah absolutely well I mean I

1968
01:32:26,270 --> 01:32:24,239
would assume that there's there's more

1969
01:32:28,250 --> 01:32:26,280
footage of this stuff you know like I

1970
01:32:29,930 --> 01:32:28,260
mean I would assume it you know if he

1971
01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:29,940
had the camera on it the whole time then

1972
01:32:34,609 --> 01:32:32,130
then that's one thing but you know in my

1973
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:34,619
mind I think you know like snips and

1974
01:32:40,700 --> 01:32:38,010
pieces of footage you know I guess if

1975
01:32:42,439 --> 01:32:40,710
it's me fast I mean you you gotta be

1976
01:32:43,550 --> 01:32:42,449
able to you know you probably see it and

1977
01:32:45,260 --> 01:32:43,560
then you don't see it and then you got

1978
01:32:49,100 --> 01:32:45,270
to find it again and then see it again

1979
01:32:50,540 --> 01:32:49,110
right like I have a feeling that what

1980
01:32:53,180 --> 01:32:50,550
they did is they just took the meat and

1981
01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:53,190
potatoes out of the video cuz I mean I'm

1982
01:32:57,850 --> 01:32:55,050
the whole time it's gonna be like a lot

1983
01:32:59,959 --> 01:32:57,860
of video of just nothing you know so

1984
01:33:03,800 --> 01:32:59,969
yeah he's only gonna be able to get this

1985
01:33:06,140 --> 01:33:03,810
thing in frame so much and then so they

1986
01:33:07,910 --> 01:33:06,150
just took like the meat and potatoes of

1987
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:07,920
it and then what it seems like is that

1988
01:33:11,990 --> 01:33:09,449
it was a compressed file that was

1989
01:33:14,660 --> 01:33:12,000
emailed right that's that's where the

1990
01:33:16,629 --> 01:33:14,670
degradation comes in yeah of course he

1991
01:33:18,589 --> 01:33:16,639
went it went from analog to digital

1992
01:33:21,050 --> 01:33:18,599
which you're gonna lose a little bit

1993
01:33:23,149 --> 01:33:21,060
there right so by the time he's done

1994
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:23,159
messing with this thing all you got is

1995
01:33:31,459 --> 01:33:27,530
this like green eat garbage video

1996
01:33:33,830 --> 01:33:31,469
depicts old like terrible video it might

1997
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:33,840
as well be been dead recording reason

1998
01:33:38,330 --> 01:33:36,570
and the only reason that it's anyhow it

1999
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:38,340
is just because the Navy yeah that's our

2000
01:33:47,270 --> 01:33:44,810
stuff and yeah it's really unknown I

2001
01:33:48,649 --> 01:33:47,280
mean kind of piggybacking on that what

2002
01:33:51,379 --> 01:33:48,659
do you think about the Navy just

2003
01:33:54,109 --> 01:33:51,389
publicly saying yeah that's our video

2004
01:33:56,959 --> 01:33:54,119
and we just don't know what it is what

2005
01:33:58,399 --> 01:33:56,969
what do you what I think that they I

2006
01:34:00,320 --> 01:33:58,409
think they're thinking they made a

2007
01:34:00,710 --> 01:34:00,330
mistake to this point because actually

2008
01:34:03,770 --> 01:34:00,720
when I

2009
01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:03,780
to the show tonight we're actually going

2010
01:34:07,970 --> 01:34:05,970
to be discussing you know he actually

2011
01:34:09,230 --> 01:34:07,980
wanted my specific opinion about like

2012
01:34:11,660 --> 01:34:09,240
this recent where they're kind of

2013
01:34:14,570 --> 01:34:11,670
backpedaling and saying you know oh well

2014
01:34:16,370 --> 01:34:14,580
there's no other videos and you know

2015
01:34:20,180 --> 01:34:16,380
they're they're basically trying to kind

2016
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:20,190
of reverse what they said now so yeah

2017
01:34:27,130 --> 01:34:24,090
they're okay well they just didn't know

2018
01:34:29,390 --> 01:34:27,140
the the media firestorm you know as yeah

2019
01:34:32,330 --> 01:34:29,400
thought that they was gonna set a fire

2020
01:34:35,210 --> 01:34:32,340
like it did it's because of me what yeah

2021
01:34:38,030 --> 01:34:35,220
but what they did is they made the the

2022
01:34:40,160 --> 01:34:38,040
pilots us and everybody involved these

2023
01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:40,170
two events into literally the most

2024
01:34:45,530 --> 01:34:44,130
credible UFO witnesses in history what

2025
01:34:48,290 --> 01:34:45,540
well-documented

2026
01:34:51,020 --> 01:34:48,300
like backed up by not only just

2027
01:34:53,450 --> 01:34:51,030
individuals but individuals of a

2028
01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:53,460
military background and then the Navy

2029
01:34:59,510 --> 01:34:56,730
comes I mean from the Pentagon all this

2030
01:35:00,950 --> 01:34:59,520
stuff kind of happens it wants just yeah

2031
01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:00,960
I don't think I agree with you I don't

2032
01:35:05,630 --> 01:35:03,210
think they realized the gravity of that

2033
01:35:10,580 --> 01:35:05,640
little like oh we just don't know what

2034
01:35:11,780 --> 01:35:10,590
it is but yeah here you go it was kind

2035
01:35:13,010 --> 01:35:11,790
of one of those things where you know

2036
01:35:14,930 --> 01:35:13,020
all right this is the statement we're

2037
01:35:16,550 --> 01:35:14,940
gonna say is this okay yeah yeah yeah

2038
01:35:21,740 --> 01:35:16,560
sure that's fine it looks fine I should

2039
01:35:25,220 --> 01:35:21,750
be good and they all said oh [\h__\h] I just

2040
01:35:28,150 --> 01:35:25,230
I love that happened I just yeah like

2041
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:28,160
the the idea of oh this isn't good oh

2042
01:35:35,150 --> 01:35:30,810
yeah most people don't think I'm rating

2043
01:35:38,750 --> 01:35:35,160
anymore I mean it's that's it that's a

2044
01:35:40,100 --> 01:35:38,760
big part of it man and I think it's you

2045
01:35:41,660 --> 01:35:40,110
know you kind of you kind of like hit

2046
01:35:46,460 --> 01:35:41,670
the nail on the head like it you know it

2047
01:35:49,430 --> 01:35:46,470
it kind of turned this event into a

2048
01:35:52,610 --> 01:35:49,440
thing where there's multiple credible

2049
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:52,620
witnesses and you know well one I'm the

2050
01:35:58,100 --> 01:35:54,930
last time that a UFO story ended up on

2051
01:36:00,260 --> 01:35:58,110
the mainstream media exactly and and so

2052
01:36:03,440 --> 01:36:00,270
I guess my question to you guys is is

2053
01:36:08,360 --> 01:36:03,450
you know being some of these credible

2054
01:36:12,650 --> 01:36:08,370
you know witnesses does does that in any

2055
01:36:14,310 --> 01:36:12,660
way kind of you know if it's like a

2056
01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:14,320
military person or a pile

2057
01:36:19,260 --> 01:36:16,930
or astronaut or you know what have you a

2058
01:36:20,820 --> 01:36:19,270
police officer you know and they say

2059
01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:20,830
something you know it's considered

2060
01:36:26,340 --> 01:36:23,890
credible right but if you're a regular

2061
01:36:28,290 --> 01:36:26,350
run-of-the-mill person who's like oh my

2062
01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:28,300
god you'll never believe what I saw

2063
01:36:33,030 --> 01:36:30,250
usually those people are made out to be

2064
01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:33,040
quacks does does does that this

2065
01:36:40,410 --> 01:36:37,090
experience kind of maybe open the door

2066
01:36:43,050 --> 01:36:40,420
you think for for the the regular person

2067
01:36:52,860 --> 01:36:43,060
to maybe not be considered such a quack

2068
01:36:55,050 --> 01:36:52,870
now we still think you're nuts man no I

2069
01:36:56,940 --> 01:36:55,060
I think I think that it helps with the

2070
01:36:58,680 --> 01:36:56,950
stigma in the military because you get I

2071
01:37:00,960 --> 01:36:58,690
remember like guys like me and PJ we're

2072
01:37:03,510 --> 01:37:00,970
ground pounders were wire jockeys you

2073
01:37:06,510 --> 01:37:03,520
know we're we're cards whoppers for you

2074
01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:06,520
know we're just text you know so being

2075
01:37:10,770 --> 01:37:09,250
if you know they think we suppose we're

2076
01:37:17,310 --> 01:37:10,780
still gonna get a promotion cuz we can

2077
01:37:19,260 --> 01:37:17,320
fix [\h__\h] yeah you know you know pilot

2078
01:37:21,300 --> 01:37:19,270
man they gotta be sounded Bobby in mind

2079
01:37:25,860 --> 01:37:21,310
you know they're running around in a

2080
01:37:30,090 --> 01:37:25,870
death machine they don't want those guys

2081
01:37:31,740 --> 01:37:30,100
to be nuts so I mean they start talking

2082
01:37:33,480 --> 01:37:31,750
about stuff then all of a sudden they

2083
01:37:36,690 --> 01:37:33,490
get a stigma they gets like a lot

2084
01:37:38,430 --> 01:37:36,700
evaluated they get grounded and you know

2085
01:37:41,610 --> 01:37:38,440
they get oh that's the guy that saw the

2086
01:37:43,860 --> 01:37:41,620
UFO you know so they had that so they

2087
01:37:45,990 --> 01:37:43,870
had a lot or rough than we did you know

2088
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:46,000
they they they got a harder stinkin

2089
01:37:53,220 --> 01:37:51,010
stigma than than anybody and that felt

2090
01:37:55,500 --> 01:37:53,230
like this helps with that stick you know

2091
01:37:58,650 --> 01:37:55,510
it allows them report what they actually

2092
01:38:01,260 --> 01:37:58,660
saw instead of like well you know there

2093
01:38:09,140 --> 01:38:01,270
was this super bright light and yeah

2094
01:38:16,650 --> 01:38:11,580
where's the nearest swamp in the middle

2095
01:38:18,900 --> 01:38:16,660
of the Pacific exactly I think if he had

2096
01:38:26,180 --> 01:38:18,910
to if you had to find it exactly it's in

2097
01:38:33,419 --> 01:38:30,270
[\h__\h] so gay dude I heard you you were

2098
01:38:35,910 --> 01:38:33,429
talking about how the hell spy radar it

2099
01:38:37,890 --> 01:38:35,920
was it was kind of a running joke it was

2100
01:38:40,770 --> 01:38:37,900
called alien radar and and you know

2101
01:38:45,270 --> 01:38:40,780
reverse engineered alien technology did

2102
01:39:02,850 --> 01:38:45,280
this event put an end to that joke hell

2103
01:39:04,950 --> 01:39:02,860
no you know it's like my ship other than

2104
01:39:07,979 --> 01:39:04,960
like people that are on the deck the

2105
01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:07,989
deck seaman's and the bosun fates and

2106
01:39:14,310 --> 01:39:10,449
just like only a handful of other rates

2107
01:39:16,799 --> 01:39:14,320
my entire ships made up of the super

2108
01:39:19,080 --> 01:39:16,809
advanced rates whether it's EWS with

2109
01:39:20,459 --> 01:39:19,090
electronic warfare fire control mints

2110
01:39:29,370 --> 01:39:20,469
that work on the weapons systems

2111
01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:29,380
Gunner's Mate basic basically where we

2112
01:39:33,450 --> 01:39:31,570
were all where it's a big ship of geeks

2113
01:39:40,649 --> 01:39:33,460
that can kill an entire country so you

2114
01:39:42,479 --> 01:39:40,659
know we're not talking about you know a

2115
01:39:44,310 --> 01:39:42,489
butts deck Apes you know doing some

2116
01:39:46,680 --> 01:39:44,320
wiring in some stupid airplanes we're

2117
01:39:52,529 --> 01:39:46,690
talking the super advanced text that you

2118
01:39:54,870 --> 01:39:52,539
know deal with chronic point is is we're

2119
01:39:57,359 --> 01:39:54,880
all thinkers we're all you know then

2120
01:39:59,220 --> 01:39:57,369
we're not we're not gonna be just like

2121
01:40:01,229 --> 01:39:59,230
oh that's cool and going about our

2122
01:40:03,180 --> 01:40:01,239
business and we're all gonna be like you

2123
01:40:06,140 --> 01:40:03,190
know I wonder how the physics on that

2124
01:40:09,660 --> 01:40:06,150
works you know just sitting there and

2125
01:40:11,009 --> 01:40:09,670
start rip out serums and you know figure

2126
01:40:13,229 --> 01:40:11,019
it out yeah there's no way that that

2127
01:40:17,370 --> 01:40:13,239
could work he's not with this physics

2128
01:40:18,750 --> 01:40:17,380
but the Olsens and some new physics yeah

2129
01:40:21,509 --> 01:40:18,760
that's the kind of people that are on

2130
01:40:24,359 --> 01:40:21,519
these on these ages ships right which

2131
01:40:27,209 --> 01:40:24,369
which kind of like leads me the Gary I

2132
01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:27,219
know you're in the uu AP this UAP

2133
01:40:31,830 --> 01:40:30,130
expedition this new initiative this new

2134
01:40:35,270 --> 01:40:31,840
company that you're you're starting did

2135
01:40:37,300 --> 01:40:35,280
I get the name right the uip expedition

2136
01:40:39,030 --> 01:40:37,310
yeah us px

2137
01:40:41,770 --> 01:40:39,040
Editions and I think they added like a

2138
01:40:44,310 --> 01:40:41,780
technology co or something to it I'm the

2139
01:40:48,940 --> 01:40:44,320
I'm the I'm the vice president of this

2140
01:40:50,830 --> 01:40:48,950
this expedition and basically like to

2141
01:40:53,200 --> 01:40:50,840
start out we've been doing a lot of

2142
01:40:55,560 --> 01:40:53,210
background research on San Clemente and

2143
01:40:59,230 --> 01:40:55,570
the surrounding areas where all these

2144
01:41:01,270 --> 01:40:59,240
EVPs started a little serious with you

2145
01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:01,280
guys for a little bit but this has been

2146
01:41:05,260 --> 01:41:03,290
like kind of a passion of me and Kevin

2147
01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:05,270
and some of the other guys first since

2148
01:41:11,140 --> 01:41:09,050
2017 when we all got together well

2149
01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:11,150
there's been over like as long as

2150
01:41:14,110 --> 01:41:12,890
there's been people in that area they've

2151
01:41:16,420 --> 01:41:14,120
been seeing the same [\h__\h] that we

2152
01:41:20,320 --> 01:41:16,430
tracked maybe so we're talking like

2153
01:41:21,820 --> 01:41:20,330
hundreds of witnesses you know people

2154
01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:21,830
that have lived for generations that

2155
01:41:29,370 --> 01:41:25,610
just know about this stuff I was talking

2156
01:41:32,320 --> 01:41:29,380
to a via email to a lady that used to do

2157
01:41:34,480 --> 01:41:32,330
tours office and comment aid to bring

2158
01:41:36,400 --> 01:41:34,490
people out to actually just see him like

2159
01:41:40,300 --> 01:41:36,410
she could regularly bring people out

2160
01:41:42,490 --> 01:41:40,310
just to see them and so our idea is that

2161
01:41:45,040 --> 01:41:42,500
well if we get a bunch of smart super

2162
01:41:48,190 --> 01:41:45,050
smart you know actual scientists out

2163
01:41:49,960 --> 01:41:48,200
there to do real research we could

2164
01:41:52,990 --> 01:41:49,970
probably hopefully figure out maybe

2165
01:41:54,970 --> 01:41:53,000
replicate the situation find them study

2166
01:41:57,790 --> 01:41:54,980
them and try to figure out exactly what

2167
01:42:00,190 --> 01:41:57,800
the hell they are and you know in the

2168
01:42:02,260 --> 01:42:00,200
future you know we're looking at some

2169
01:42:04,900 --> 01:42:02,270
pretty major funding for our operation

2170
01:42:07,090 --> 01:42:04,910
which if everything worked out good you

2171
01:42:12,130 --> 01:42:07,100
might be seeing us all over the place

2172
01:42:14,950 --> 01:42:12,140
that's really awesome yeah so it's it's

2173
01:42:16,390 --> 01:42:14,960
it's pretty exciting and honestly if I

2174
01:42:21,690 --> 01:42:16,400
can quit my job for like a year I'd be

2175
01:42:24,460 --> 01:42:21,700
super stoked I feel the exact same way

2176
01:42:26,170 --> 01:42:24,470
hey you you do the work keep up with us

2177
01:42:29,830 --> 01:42:26,180
and we'll talk about it for you we'll

2178
01:42:32,050 --> 01:42:29,840
help each other quit our day jobs sounds

2179
01:42:35,140 --> 01:42:32,060
like a plan yeah we we have a couple

2180
01:42:36,970 --> 01:42:35,150
friends one her name is Melinda Leslie

2181
01:42:40,030 --> 01:42:36,980
and you'll be getting to her pretty soon

2182
01:42:45,540 --> 01:42:40,040
on the podcast man she's one of those

2183
01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:47,400
yeah well so I mean yeah she's actually

2184
01:42:52,770 --> 01:42:50,170
that see she did the UFO con that

2185
01:42:55,320 --> 01:42:52,780
actually was our all of our first events

2186
01:42:58,080 --> 01:42:55,330
so we know Melinda pretty well she's an

2187
01:43:00,660 --> 01:42:58,090
awesome awesome lady man super awesome

2188
01:43:02,790 --> 01:43:00,670
lady yeah and yeah she takes people out

2189
01:43:06,060 --> 01:43:02,800
on those on those little tours as well

2190
01:43:08,310 --> 01:43:06,070
man you know that's actually who took us

2191
01:43:09,410 --> 01:43:08,320
out they over there and when we were

2192
01:43:12,690 --> 01:43:09,420
over there in the desert

2193
01:43:15,390 --> 01:43:12,700
yeah that's so cool yeah she's a super

2194
01:43:17,760 --> 01:43:15,400
nice lady she has got she's got some

2195
01:43:20,520 --> 01:43:17,770
crazy information man all that that mil

2196
01:43:23,070 --> 01:43:20,530
labs research and and stuff like that I

2197
01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:23,080
don't know if you saw hope have you seen

2198
01:43:27,990 --> 01:43:25,930
the documentary of the seating I haven't

2199
01:43:29,310 --> 01:43:28,000
seen that actually was just listening to

2200
01:43:31,290 --> 01:43:29,320
the episode where you kind of glazed

2201
01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:31,300
over that a little I was like mm I might

2202
01:43:38,340 --> 01:43:33,730
watch that she's in it watch it it's

2203
01:43:40,110 --> 01:43:38,350
it's it's pretty awesome yeah she was

2204
01:43:42,210 --> 01:43:40,120
telling me about it but I'll be honest

2205
01:43:44,370 --> 01:43:42,220
with you some some of the stuff you know

2206
01:43:46,920 --> 01:43:44,380
I'm still just a nuts and bolts guy you

2207
01:43:48,990 --> 01:43:46,930
know I'm like a what you would guess we

2208
01:43:50,820 --> 01:43:49,000
call like a skeptical believer you know

2209
01:43:52,680 --> 01:43:50,830
you mean give me a give me at least a

2210
01:43:54,810 --> 01:43:52,690
grain to go on and I might you know

2211
01:43:57,030 --> 01:43:54,820
start start looking into it but I got so

2212
01:43:59,990 --> 01:43:57,040
much [\h__\h] that I even just gotta catch

2213
01:44:04,230 --> 01:44:00,000
up on I'm just UFO history nevermind

2214
01:44:06,150 --> 01:44:04,240
that I'll keep the fringe stuff for when

2215
01:44:08,010 --> 01:44:06,160
I got a little bit of time but I mean

2216
01:44:09,870 --> 01:44:08,020
you know so like somebody like Melinda

2217
01:44:11,730 --> 01:44:09,880
she's so passionate about it it makes

2218
01:44:15,060 --> 01:44:11,740
you want to listen to her and believe

2219
01:44:16,830 --> 01:44:15,070
what she's saying so so I you know I

2220
01:44:18,570 --> 01:44:16,840
definitely you know I definitely feel

2221
01:44:20,880 --> 01:44:18,580
like there's something there but I you

2222
01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:20,890
know I'm not sure I'd have to look into

2223
01:44:25,020 --> 01:44:23,530
a lot more before I'd really get into it

2224
01:44:27,420 --> 01:44:25,030
get into it yeah there because if that's

2225
01:44:30,060 --> 01:44:27,430
true that's gotta be like one of the

2226
01:44:32,160 --> 01:44:30,070
worst situations that's ever happened to

2227
01:44:37,020 --> 01:44:32,170
the females on this planet yeah right

2228
01:44:39,810 --> 01:44:37,030
yes yeah yeah I understand the the nuts

2229
01:44:41,880 --> 01:44:39,820
and bolts aspect for sure you know

2230
01:44:44,370 --> 01:44:41,890
that's you know it's it's it's kind of a

2231
01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:44,380
hard thing to wrap your mind around but

2232
01:44:50,040 --> 01:44:48,010
you know you all you also said you know

2233
01:44:51,300 --> 01:44:50,050
it's not impossible just highly

2234
01:44:54,840 --> 01:44:51,310
improbable right

2235
01:44:56,970 --> 01:44:54,850
you know exactly so you know I try

2236
01:44:58,580 --> 01:44:56,980
really hard not even if I don't believe

2237
01:45:01,460 --> 01:44:58,590
in what somebody is saying I

2238
01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:01,470
very hard to least listen to it and

2239
01:45:05,330 --> 01:45:03,930
gauge it and just kind of if I don't

2240
01:45:06,740 --> 01:45:05,340
quite believe it I'll put this on this

2241
01:45:11,600 --> 01:45:06,750
shelf over here until I find more

2242
01:45:14,810 --> 01:45:11,610
information you know 30 plus years of

2243
01:45:19,370 --> 01:45:14,820
research in the in the middle app stuff

2244
01:45:21,710 --> 01:45:19,380
and I mean you know you it it's it's

2245
01:45:24,020 --> 01:45:21,720
hard for me to wrap my head around you

2246
01:45:27,500 --> 01:45:24,030
know and I'm totally into this stuff

2247
01:45:29,540 --> 01:45:27,510
yeah saying it blows my mind but you

2248
01:45:32,330 --> 01:45:29,550
know when you start looking at all the

2249
01:45:35,780 --> 01:45:32,340
the names in the people that she's

2250
01:45:38,390 --> 01:45:35,790
involved with and you know where they

2251
01:45:41,540 --> 01:45:38,400
work you know like it's it's uh it's

2252
01:45:43,940 --> 01:45:41,550
it's it's pretty intriguing definitely

2253
01:45:45,860 --> 01:45:43,950
to say the least you know it's it's it's

2254
01:45:47,750 --> 01:45:45,870
definitely something to you know there

2255
01:45:49,250 --> 01:45:47,760
is so much to this dude like you were

2256
01:45:51,320 --> 01:45:49,260
saying like you know you got a lot of

2257
01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:51,330
you got a lot of research to do we have

2258
01:45:55,670 --> 01:45:52,890
been are barely even scratching the

2259
01:45:57,290 --> 01:45:55,680
surface of this stuff and it it every

2260
01:45:59,180 --> 01:45:57,300
time we talked to somebody man are like

2261
01:46:01,040 --> 01:45:59,190
we have to scoop our brains up off the

2262
01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:01,050
floor cuz you know it just blows our

2263
01:46:07,370 --> 01:46:04,770
minds but yeah there's just so much to

2264
01:46:08,930 --> 01:46:07,380
it man there's so much to it but it

2265
01:46:12,350 --> 01:46:08,940
helps a little bit when you have

2266
01:46:15,080 --> 01:46:12,360
somebody who has the research and has

2267
01:46:17,750 --> 01:46:15,090
the you know the the data to go along

2268
01:46:20,630 --> 01:46:17,760
with it it you know it makes it a little

2269
01:46:29,030 --> 01:46:20,640
more a little more real even though it

2270
01:46:32,750 --> 01:46:29,040
is completely insane yeah - you know say

2271
01:46:34,220 --> 01:46:32,760
it again PJ so that's why I like to go

2272
01:46:41,540 --> 01:46:34,230
on these things with Gary I sound

2273
01:46:43,400 --> 01:46:41,550
smarter pretty smart cat yeah it's it's

2274
01:46:44,690 --> 01:46:43,410
not the guy running his mouth it's smart

2275
01:46:48,560 --> 01:46:44,700
it's a guy that's keeping his mouth shut

2276
01:46:51,200 --> 01:46:48,570
and listening so that's right that's how

2277
01:46:55,280 --> 01:46:51,210
I'm just a feather just get that runs

2278
01:46:56,990 --> 01:46:55,290
his mouth for the group hey you need the

2279
01:46:59,090 --> 01:46:57,000
balance right you need somebody to speak

2280
01:47:00,650 --> 01:46:59,100
you know it's a little bit of both I

2281
01:47:03,080 --> 01:47:00,660
feel like both of you guys are just I

2282
01:47:05,450 --> 01:47:03,090
just love the passion the passion you

2283
01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:05,460
Gary and PG I know you're passionate

2284
01:47:09,080 --> 01:47:07,650
about the stuff too and you we wouldn't

2285
01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:09,090
have you on the podcast if you weren't

2286
01:47:14,470 --> 01:47:10,130
so

2287
01:47:16,480 --> 01:47:14,480
are just willing to go out there and

2288
01:47:19,450 --> 01:47:16,490
talk you mean uh you mentioned earlier

2289
01:47:21,700 --> 01:47:19,460
you you guys wanted to you guys wanted

2290
01:47:24,040 --> 01:47:21,710
to speak out after David flavor and it's

2291
01:47:25,660 --> 01:47:24,050
just like man time can you talk a little

2292
01:47:27,160 --> 01:47:25,670
bit about that experience like after

2293
01:47:29,260 --> 01:47:27,170
David flavor came out that he let you

2294
01:47:31,480 --> 01:47:29,270
guys know personally or were you just

2295
01:47:34,420 --> 01:47:31,490
kind of like hey well [\h__\h] let's do this

2296
01:47:36,940 --> 01:47:34,430
well we did honest with you I've never

2297
01:47:41,950 --> 01:47:36,950
spoken the day forever nor did they have

2298
01:47:44,470 --> 01:47:41,960
any desire to speak to any of us I don't

2299
01:47:46,180 --> 01:47:44,480
I'm not really sure you know they got a

2300
01:47:49,420 --> 01:47:46,190
certain narrative that they've stuck to

2301
01:47:53,050 --> 01:47:49,430
and I think that it's just based off of

2302
01:47:56,320 --> 01:47:53,060
the report that was actually filed from

2303
01:47:59,170 --> 01:47:56,330
the Navy's investigation and so they

2304
01:48:01,600 --> 01:47:59,180
stick right with that storyline I'm so

2305
01:48:03,220 --> 01:48:01,610
glad you just said that dude I'm ya I've

2306
01:48:05,500 --> 01:48:03,230
want to pick your brain about that

2307
01:48:07,270 --> 01:48:05,510
because we think we me and Joe think the

2308
01:48:09,010 --> 01:48:07,280
same there's something weird about that

2309
01:48:13,510 --> 01:48:09,020
narrative law you're talking about this

2310
01:48:18,010 --> 01:48:13,520
TTS a and yeah absolutely well with with

2311
01:48:20,980 --> 01:48:18,020
you know wit with the report that Paco

2312
01:48:22,930 --> 01:48:20,990
was talking about I mean we we actually

2313
01:48:25,710 --> 01:48:22,940
got in the phone pocket just a couple of

2314
01:48:29,170 --> 01:48:25,720
weeks ago and you know he was cordial

2315
01:48:31,060 --> 01:48:29,180
but I mean completely dismissive I mean

2316
01:48:32,320 --> 01:48:31,070
he just basically thinks we're just all

2317
01:48:35,080 --> 01:48:32,330
full of [\h__\h] and that there's no

2318
01:48:38,170 --> 01:48:35,090
possible way and the only his only basis

2319
01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:38,180
is because flavor says so and the report

2320
01:48:43,120 --> 01:48:41,210
doesn't mention anything about it so you

2321
01:48:44,950 --> 01:48:43,130
know whatever the official report says

2322
01:48:46,510 --> 01:48:44,960
and that's it that's all he's going by

2323
01:48:48,790 --> 01:48:46,520
which you know I can't really blame the

2324
01:48:52,030 --> 01:48:48,800
guy because you know his reputation is

2325
01:48:54,670 --> 01:48:52,040
on the line you know where I got the

2326
01:48:56,860 --> 01:48:54,680
lose I tell you my story and that's it

2327
01:49:00,940 --> 01:48:56,870
you know I'm a cable guy into Florida

2328
01:49:13,210 --> 01:49:00,950
the hell am I going to lose are you able

2329
01:49:14,920 --> 01:49:13,220
to have free cable yeah that's that's

2330
01:49:16,720 --> 01:49:14,930
awesome though I mean I think it's I

2331
01:49:19,540 --> 01:49:16,730
think it's great that you know more

2332
01:49:22,620 --> 01:49:19,550
people are speaking up about the event I

2333
01:49:24,130 --> 01:49:22,630
mean the more you know the more you know

2334
01:49:26,320 --> 01:49:24,140
eyewitnesses

2335
01:49:28,900 --> 01:49:26,330
you know that you can corroborate you

2336
01:49:29,350 --> 01:49:28,910
know it might solidifies a story for

2337
01:49:32,080 --> 01:49:29,360
sure

2338
01:49:36,280 --> 01:49:32,090
well my official opinion about day

2339
01:49:38,730 --> 01:49:36,290
forever is that I absolutely respect the

2340
01:49:42,070 --> 01:49:38,740
man he's a Top Gun pilot and from what

2341
01:49:44,140 --> 01:49:42,080
I've heard from other other people that

2342
01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:44,150
have worked around him is that he is

2343
01:49:48,340 --> 01:49:46,130
what they would say they're the best of

2344
01:49:51,370 --> 01:49:48,350
the best when it comes to violence so

2345
01:49:53,080 --> 01:49:51,380
you know the attitude and everything

2346
01:49:54,280 --> 01:49:53,090
else that comes with it it's just part

2347
01:49:57,160 --> 01:49:54,290
of that package man you just either

2348
01:49:58,390 --> 01:49:57,170
gonna roll with it or you know if he

2349
01:49:59,410 --> 01:49:58,400
doesn't want to talk to us that's cool

2350
01:50:01,150 --> 01:49:59,420
it doesn't bother me

2351
01:50:04,180 --> 01:50:01,160
yeah I'm still gonna support the dude I

2352
01:50:06,130 --> 01:50:04,190
still think he's you know if he says you

2353
01:50:07,480 --> 01:50:06,140
know he didn't have radar contact or if

2354
01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:07,490
he says he got jammed

2355
01:50:13,240 --> 01:50:11,930
I believe it 100% yeah so that's

2356
01:50:14,800 --> 01:50:13,250
important to know I feel like a lot of

2357
01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:14,810
people kind of lump all these stories

2358
01:50:18,550 --> 01:50:17,210
together like you know you talk to one

2359
01:50:21,010 --> 01:50:18,560
witness and the other and they maybe

2360
01:50:22,570 --> 01:50:21,020
have two different experiences I think

2361
01:50:25,300 --> 01:50:22,580
it is important to bring up both sides

2362
01:50:27,490 --> 01:50:25,310
right it's like this guy says this and

2363
01:50:29,530 --> 01:50:27,500
this guy says that you kind of gotta

2364
01:50:31,540 --> 01:50:29,540
maybe not lump them all together but

2365
01:50:32,710 --> 01:50:31,550
just figure out all the different sides

2366
01:50:34,450 --> 01:50:32,720
of the story we're all just trying to

2367
01:50:38,650 --> 01:50:34,460
figure this thing out right this is just

2368
01:50:41,020 --> 01:50:38,660
one event that so many people are up yes

2369
01:50:42,970 --> 01:50:41,030
to the basic the basic nuts and bolts of

2370
01:50:45,790 --> 01:50:42,980
the extras story is it's okay

2371
01:50:46,930 --> 01:50:45,800
we tracked unknowns how many doesn't

2372
01:50:49,690 --> 01:50:46,940
matter it's an unknown

2373
01:50:51,550 --> 01:50:49,700
it's a actual real physical object we

2374
01:50:54,310 --> 01:50:51,560
track that we have no idea what it was

2375
01:50:57,490 --> 01:50:54,320
it displayed properties of being able to

2376
01:50:59,620 --> 01:50:57,500
do right-hand turns you know breaking

2377
01:51:03,790 --> 01:50:59,630
the sound barrier without making a sonic

2378
01:51:07,540 --> 01:51:03,800
boom it did all these amazing things

2379
01:51:10,420 --> 01:51:07,550
these these things that we can't figure

2380
01:51:11,320 --> 01:51:10,430
out how it did then we had after we

2381
01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:11,330
tracked it

2382
01:51:19,270 --> 01:51:14,690
we had an f-18 and Terry which was David

2383
01:51:21,640 --> 01:51:19,280
flavors flight he then saw it

2384
01:51:23,290 --> 01:51:21,650
interrogated it did a smoke gun you know

2385
01:51:27,370 --> 01:51:23,300
you know a little dog fight without

2386
01:51:29,800 --> 01:51:27,380
shooting with it and the thing just flew

2387
01:51:33,300 --> 01:51:29,810
circles around them it was shocking out

2388
01:51:37,690 --> 01:51:33,310
to him because of how crazy it just

2389
01:51:38,080 --> 01:51:37,700
outmaneuvered the best of our planes at

2390
01:51:39,640 --> 01:51:38,090
the time

2391
01:51:43,540 --> 01:51:39,650
you know I mean that was the best in the

2392
01:51:45,339 --> 01:51:43,550
world at the time you know so it wasn't

2393
01:51:47,050 --> 01:51:45,349
the nuts and bolts of the story that is

2394
01:51:49,780 --> 01:51:47,060
what people need to be focused on is the

2395
01:51:52,270 --> 01:51:49,790
fact that this event happened that that

2396
01:51:58,240 --> 01:51:52,280
this technology exists there is

2397
01:52:00,970 --> 01:51:58,250
something flying around there is a you

2398
01:52:02,890 --> 01:52:00,980
know I my heart doesn't want to say a

2399
01:52:04,899 --> 01:52:02,900
threat but when it comes down to it you

2400
01:52:06,750 --> 01:52:04,909
know here's a technology that literally

2401
01:52:10,149 --> 01:52:06,760
can just do whatever the hell it wants

2402
01:52:10,839 --> 01:52:10,159
yeah it is a threat even if it's not

2403
01:52:14,260 --> 01:52:10,849
hostile

2404
01:52:16,270 --> 01:52:14,270
it's still a threat you know I didn't

2405
01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:16,280
know that sounds weird but you know it's

2406
01:52:23,439 --> 01:52:20,690
like say you have some very devoted

2407
01:52:25,870 --> 01:52:23,449
people of country a that moved and

2408
01:52:28,120 --> 01:52:25,880
immigrated to country B and then all of

2409
01:52:30,939 --> 01:52:28,130
a sudden country a decides that they

2410
01:52:32,680 --> 01:52:30,949
want to go to war with country B now you

2411
01:52:34,300 --> 01:52:32,690
have divided you know you've got you can

2412
01:52:37,060 --> 01:52:34,310
always have a handful of people that are

2413
01:52:40,030 --> 01:52:37,070
still devoted to the motherland so even

2414
01:52:43,390 --> 01:52:40,040
if they're not a not a threat to us now

2415
01:52:46,839 --> 01:52:43,400
as if we don't develop T where we can

2416
01:52:49,410 --> 01:52:46,849
actually go to war with them you know

2417
01:52:52,330 --> 01:52:49,420
what screw it you guys had a good run so

2418
01:52:53,620 --> 01:52:52,340
you know we're gonna do like I hope

2419
01:52:58,240 --> 01:52:53,630
somebody made an art because we're gonna

2420
01:53:01,689 --> 01:52:58,250
do like no and melty ice caps yeah I

2421
01:53:06,370 --> 01:53:01,699
think about that like kind of connection

2422
01:53:08,649 --> 01:53:06,380
between you know horses in in in Mexico

2423
01:53:11,620 --> 01:53:08,659
when the Spaniards came over with horses

2424
01:53:13,540 --> 01:53:11,630
and nobody knew what a horse look like

2425
01:53:15,490 --> 01:53:13,550
right they're like oh man these little

2426
01:53:17,979 --> 01:53:15,500
is so [\h__\h] fast and they're

2427
01:53:19,930 --> 01:53:17,989
half-horse half-man and oh man they're

2428
01:53:20,979 --> 01:53:19,940
in and out and we can't ever tell where

2429
01:53:22,750 --> 01:53:20,989
they're gonna be where they're gonna

2430
01:53:25,510 --> 01:53:22,760
it's just kind of like that same

2431
01:53:27,520 --> 01:53:25,520
connectivity of it's just we don't

2432
01:53:30,310 --> 01:53:27,530
notice they're bad or they're good until

2433
01:53:31,720 --> 01:53:30,320
you know that they're but I mean what's

2434
01:53:34,120 --> 01:53:31,730
what's any technology you don't

2435
01:53:36,459 --> 01:53:34,130
understand it's just magic right so I

2436
01:53:39,100 --> 01:53:36,469
met it's only magic until you understand

2437
01:53:42,820 --> 01:53:39,110
what it is yeah exactly so I mean that

2438
01:53:45,820 --> 01:53:42,830
the the the stance on are these things a

2439
01:53:48,729 --> 01:53:45,830
threat I really appreciate your kind of

2440
01:53:50,830 --> 01:53:48,739
description of that that okay well it is

2441
01:53:51,399 --> 01:53:50,840
unknown and it can do whatever the [\h__\h]

2442
01:53:54,399 --> 01:53:51,409
it

2443
01:53:56,140 --> 01:53:54,409
right I just I'm still kind of on the

2444
01:53:59,470 --> 01:53:56,150
fence and whether it is a threat or not

2445
01:54:01,030 --> 01:53:59,480
but maybe that's just it it's always

2446
01:54:03,160 --> 01:54:01,040
gonna be a threat because we can't do

2447
01:54:05,169 --> 01:54:03,170
anything about it so it's like if I

2448
01:54:07,090 --> 01:54:05,179
walked up to you and you're super small

2449
01:54:10,600 --> 01:54:07,100
dude and I just start pushing you around

2450
01:54:12,430 --> 01:54:10,610
you can't stop me hey well you know say

2451
01:54:14,290 --> 01:54:12,440
I stop pushing you around or I stop

2452
01:54:17,890 --> 01:54:14,300
hanging around you even though you know

2453
01:54:19,899 --> 01:54:17,900
you can't do anything about it and you

2454
01:54:26,169 --> 01:54:19,909
know anytime I could just decide to go

2455
01:54:27,970 --> 01:54:26,179
over there and pummel you to death just

2456
01:54:30,100 --> 01:54:27,980
be like hanging out and be like yeah

2457
01:54:31,240 --> 01:54:30,110
this is my book isn't my boy but then

2458
01:54:35,410 --> 01:54:31,250
all of a sudden you know you ain't my

2459
01:54:39,580 --> 01:54:35,420
boy no more you know that's like some

2460
01:54:41,490 --> 01:54:39,590
psychological deep kind of stuff man

2461
01:54:43,930 --> 01:54:41,500
I've never really thought of it that way

2462
01:54:48,850 --> 01:54:43,940
and I get a little insight of how my

2463
01:54:50,439 --> 01:54:48,860
brain never stops working I've got you

2464
01:54:52,840 --> 01:54:50,449
know boys of mine that are you know a

2465
01:54:55,300 --> 01:54:52,850
little more muscular than me I'm like me

2466
01:55:00,790 --> 01:54:55,310
in that I could take him but in reality

2467
01:55:02,379 --> 01:55:00,800
we can't push the show but I mean so

2468
01:55:04,270 --> 01:55:02,389
this does that mean that I should always

2469
01:55:09,100 --> 01:55:04,280
see my friend is a threat you know it's

2470
01:55:12,340 --> 01:55:09,110
like we made sure you piss him off he's

2471
01:55:14,020 --> 01:55:12,350
not yeah I think maybe the difference

2472
01:55:16,300 --> 01:55:14,030
there is with that kind of line of

2473
01:55:19,660 --> 01:55:16,310
thinking is we don't have a relationship

2474
01:55:23,229 --> 01:55:19,670
with whatever this is to establish a

2475
01:55:27,280 --> 01:55:23,239
flowing a friendly relationship so we

2476
01:55:29,200 --> 01:55:27,290
don't have any the public doesn't the

2477
01:55:31,660 --> 01:55:29,210
public's doesn't have a relationship

2478
01:55:34,510 --> 01:55:31,670
with them or they remember that you know

2479
01:55:35,800 --> 01:55:34,520
just because we as a public entity don't

2480
01:55:38,169 --> 01:55:35,810
have one doesn't mean that somebody on

2481
01:55:41,890 --> 01:55:38,179
this planet doesn't right very good

2482
01:55:44,860 --> 01:55:41,900
point very good point yeah yeah yeah I

2483
01:55:47,169 --> 01:55:44,870
love that like here's here's here's an

2484
01:55:49,570 --> 01:55:47,179
idea for you say that there's seriously

2485
01:55:51,850 --> 01:55:49,580
this is all all they do experiments on

2486
01:55:55,570 --> 01:55:51,860
everything like say you're alone your

2487
01:55:59,080 --> 01:55:55,580
thing where they collect you know DNA

2488
01:56:01,209 --> 01:55:59,090
and then you know a all this stuff from

2489
01:56:03,610 --> 01:56:01,219
us you know biological samples from us

2490
01:56:04,629 --> 01:56:03,620
yeah say they say they go the world

2491
01:56:06,549 --> 01:56:04,639
leaders or the

2492
01:56:09,699 --> 01:56:06,559
Mincy say look you know we're gonna give

2493
01:56:11,199 --> 01:56:09,709
you this tack but you know 1% of the

2494
01:56:14,799 --> 01:56:11,209
population we're gonna we're gonna take

2495
01:56:18,370 --> 01:56:14,809
every year yeah yeah yeah yeah what are

2496
01:56:20,290 --> 01:56:18,380
they gonna take I mean that's that's why

2497
01:56:22,569 --> 01:56:20,300
the CIA was invented in the first place

2498
01:56:30,669 --> 01:56:22,579
was to assure that this was able to

2499
01:56:34,209 --> 01:56:30,679
happen make sure that it does happen

2500
01:56:37,330 --> 01:56:34,219
yeah they could be just a straight

2501
01:56:43,899 --> 01:56:37,340
agency just smooth over all these

2502
01:56:47,439 --> 01:56:43,909
abductions you know I mean it's sorry if

2503
01:56:49,149 --> 01:56:47,449
you do a google search for how many

2504
01:56:52,479 --> 01:56:49,159
missing persons all right and then you

2505
01:56:54,729 --> 01:56:52,489
say at least 90% of those people were

2506
01:56:57,219 --> 01:56:54,739
either murdered or just disappeared by

2507
01:56:59,529 --> 01:56:57,229
other humans you know maybe you know a

2508
01:57:00,819 --> 01:56:59,539
little bit of you know the cousin they

2509
01:57:08,979 --> 01:57:00,829
knew something about the Clintons or

2510
01:57:10,870 --> 01:57:08,989
something you know ten percenter that 1%

2511
01:57:12,489 --> 01:57:10,880
that still takes up a lot of [\h__\h]

2512
01:57:14,919 --> 01:57:12,499
people missing every year that nobody

2513
01:57:20,229 --> 01:57:14,929
knows where they went right aliens or

2514
01:57:22,060 --> 01:57:20,239
the Clintons dude have you seen that

2515
01:57:26,259 --> 01:57:22,070
have y'all seen the documentaries

2516
01:57:28,870 --> 01:57:26,269
missing for one one I've heard about it

2517
01:57:30,370 --> 01:57:28,880
and I saw the trailer for it they're

2518
01:57:31,979 --> 01:57:30,380
pretty bad yeah there's two of them you

2519
01:57:34,479 --> 01:57:31,989
also check it out if you're interested

2520
01:57:37,089 --> 01:57:34,489
it's it's pretty it's pretty like

2521
01:57:39,489 --> 01:57:37,099
third-party it really doesn't say what

2522
01:57:41,859 --> 01:57:39,499
stance it takes but the guy they did a

2523
01:57:43,540 --> 01:57:41,869
really tasteful job of saying hey here's

2524
01:57:46,270 --> 01:57:43,550
some statistics on how many people go

2525
01:57:48,939 --> 01:57:46,280
missing every year in state parks well

2526
01:57:55,060 --> 01:57:48,949
turns out state parks don't have [\h__\h]

2527
01:57:56,500 --> 01:57:55,070
any documentation on that about this so

2528
01:58:01,449 --> 01:57:56,510
yeah I know everything you guys talked

2529
01:58:03,669 --> 01:58:01,459
about if you do want information it cost

2530
01:58:07,060 --> 01:58:03,679
millions of dollars to obtain the

2531
01:58:09,159 --> 01:58:07,070
information pretty crazy yeah they don't

2532
01:58:10,719 --> 01:58:09,169
you know I mean that's their bread and

2533
01:58:12,489 --> 01:58:10,729
butter for people to come to those parks

2534
01:58:16,239 --> 01:58:12,499
so if there's like you know 10 people

2535
01:58:18,400 --> 01:58:16,249
missing every month you don't work or I

2536
01:58:19,930 --> 01:58:18,410
mean he'll if there's one there's one

2537
01:58:21,640 --> 01:58:19,940
architecting a beach here in Florida

2538
01:58:26,220 --> 01:58:21,650
nobody goes there for like you know a

2539
01:58:29,290 --> 01:58:26,230
year good thing Netflix was invented

2540
01:58:35,140 --> 01:58:29,300
hikes hours sorry honey we ain't going

2541
01:58:37,990 --> 01:58:35,150
to Yellowstone over over in Yosemite

2542
01:58:39,880 --> 01:58:38,000
they've got these these pools and I mean

2543
01:58:41,380 --> 01:58:39,890
if you fell into this book coming out

2544
01:58:44,260 --> 01:58:41,390
did you just die because it's just

2545
01:58:46,720 --> 01:58:44,270
nothing but methane and just these nasty

2546
01:58:48,790 --> 01:58:46,730
chemicals you know in some of these

2547
01:58:50,260 --> 01:58:48,800
these things and I mean there's signs

2548
01:58:52,090 --> 01:58:50,270
saying you know don't be messing around

2549
01:58:54,520 --> 01:58:52,100
over here because if you fall in you're

2550
01:58:56,620 --> 01:58:54,530
just dead you're not getting out and

2551
01:58:58,180 --> 01:58:56,630
apparently there's actually so many

2552
01:59:00,670 --> 01:58:58,190
people that actually fall into this

2553
01:59:08,380 --> 01:59:00,680
thing every year but they don't say

2554
01:59:10,060 --> 01:59:08,390
anything about labels all over bleach

2555
01:59:12,280 --> 01:59:10,070
like do not drink this but they can't

2556
01:59:29,190 --> 01:59:12,290
even post a [\h__\h] sign on this methane

2557
01:59:35,050 --> 01:59:33,010
right which you know and sometimes you

2558
01:59:36,820 --> 01:59:35,060
know I can't say you know I'm opposed to

2559
01:59:41,770 --> 01:59:36,830
that you know like maybe they should

2560
01:59:43,510 --> 01:59:41,780
stop labeling certain things you don't

2561
01:59:54,490 --> 01:59:43,520
have to definitely hear not dangerous

2562
01:59:56,380 --> 01:59:54,500
keep movin dude hey so the most

2563
02:00:04,980 --> 01:59:56,390
important question of the night have you

2564
02:00:07,960 --> 02:00:04,990
guys seen mandalorian or what alright

2565
02:00:09,940 --> 02:00:07,970
three where that thing happens with the

2566
02:00:16,870 --> 02:00:09,950
one little thing and you know they do

2567
02:00:20,200 --> 02:00:16,880
they we hey we will give you a 4pj all

2568
02:00:22,000 --> 02:00:20,210
right this is the way I'm gonna send

2569
02:00:26,140 --> 02:00:22,010
them a text after this everything

2570
02:00:28,150 --> 02:00:26,150
happens yeah yeah ketchup man it's

2571
02:00:29,930 --> 02:00:28,160
pretty hard I'm waiting I gotta watch it

2572
02:00:32,120 --> 02:00:29,940
with my kids yeah

2573
02:00:35,090 --> 02:00:32,130
okay sorry I'll give you that one I

2574
02:00:37,850 --> 02:00:35,100
haven't seen the new Star Wars yet so so

2575
02:00:41,450 --> 02:00:37,860
I'm behind about that he's a pretty

2576
02:00:46,150 --> 02:00:41,460
badass yeah oh yeah cool yeah I've seen

2577
02:00:53,270 --> 02:00:49,360
last of the Jedi yeah yeah I thought too

2578
02:00:55,880 --> 02:00:53,280
yeah I was amazed I haven't seen it yet

2579
02:00:58,160 --> 02:00:55,890
I hear it's pretty badass there's a

2580
02:01:03,260 --> 02:00:58,170
couple of the the snobs they were like

2581
02:01:06,050 --> 02:01:03,270
it wasn't that good like that what's

2582
02:01:07,490 --> 02:01:06,060
that what's that me my saw it's like me

2583
02:01:10,370 --> 02:01:07,500
sitting in front of the new Star Wars

2584
02:01:17,060 --> 02:01:10,380
movie because it's a [\h__\h] new Star

2585
02:01:19,010 --> 02:01:17,070
Wars movie there's so much so much in

2586
02:01:20,690 --> 02:01:19,020
that episode or that you know I guess it

2587
02:01:23,780 --> 02:01:20,700
is an episode because it's episode 9 or

2588
02:01:25,130 --> 02:01:23,790
whatever but man I love that movie I'm

2589
02:01:27,290 --> 02:01:25,140
not gonna give any spoilers away but

2590
02:01:31,550 --> 02:01:27,300
right don't give any spoilers what about

2591
02:01:33,800 --> 02:01:31,560
the new lost in space I'm on like the

2592
02:01:37,880 --> 02:01:33,810
third episode right now I watch it when

2593
02:01:39,650 --> 02:01:37,890
I run whoa dude I'm Jesus Christ please

2594
02:01:49,130 --> 02:01:39,660
follow your Charlie on treadmill or you

2595
02:01:50,510 --> 02:01:49,140
hold it up in front of your face damn I

2596
02:01:57,320 --> 02:01:50,520
was gonna say dude I can't even like

2597
02:02:04,430 --> 02:01:57,330
chew gum and run at the same time Gary's

2598
02:02:07,130 --> 02:02:04,440
got a gazelle going on I was gonna say

2599
02:02:08,780 --> 02:02:07,140
the other day you had messaged me and it

2600
02:02:11,300 --> 02:02:08,790
was like it was like 5:15 in the morning

2601
02:02:13,670 --> 02:02:11,310
and I was like holy [\h__\h] he's up this

2602
02:02:15,890 --> 02:02:13,680
early - is that like are you are you

2603
02:02:19,370 --> 02:02:15,900
doing work or is it just because you are

2604
02:02:22,490 --> 02:02:19,380
you guys go and you guys are waking up

2605
02:02:25,430 --> 02:02:22,500
early all the time anyways I get up at

2606
02:02:27,830 --> 02:02:25,440
5:00 or 6:00 every day anyways but and

2607
02:02:29,570 --> 02:02:27,840
Mondays Wednesdays and Fridays and

2608
02:02:31,760 --> 02:02:29,580
sometimes Saturdays depending on what

2609
02:02:34,430 --> 02:02:31,770
day that my workout partner wants to go

2610
02:02:38,870 --> 02:02:34,440
we get up at 3 a.m. to go workout before

2611
02:02:40,310 --> 02:02:38,880
work damn yeah my brothers that lot -

2612
02:02:42,470 --> 02:02:40,320
man you the one that was in the Air

2613
02:02:43,520 --> 02:02:42,480
Force he's like yeah I wake up at like

2614
02:02:45,890 --> 02:02:43,530
4:00

2615
02:02:47,630 --> 02:02:45,900
I'll go for like a 25 mile run and then

2616
02:02:50,140 --> 02:02:47,640
you know just to burn some energy before

2617
02:02:53,570 --> 02:02:50,150
I go to work and I'm like Jesus Christ

2618
02:02:56,660 --> 02:02:53,580
workout three times a day my protein

2619
02:02:59,900 --> 02:02:56,670
shake I fixed some airplanes and Jesus

2620
02:03:03,800 --> 02:02:59,910
did I'll go that crazy I just got I just

2621
02:03:06,590 --> 02:03:03,810
got real sick in 2017 and in order to

2622
02:03:08,570 --> 02:03:06,600
you know I was diagnosed diabetes all

2623
02:03:13,280 --> 02:03:08,580
kinds of stuff I weighed like close to a

2624
02:03:17,210 --> 02:03:13,290
little over 300 and so I just had to get

2625
02:03:22,220 --> 02:03:17,220
healthy and so I started losing weight

2626
02:03:24,320 --> 02:03:22,230
just by eating right and then I a friend

2627
02:03:27,500 --> 02:03:24,330
of mine we started going to the gym and

2628
02:03:28,970 --> 02:03:27,510
then we just kind of just try to keep it

2629
02:03:30,590 --> 02:03:28,980
going so we could push enough mayonnaise

2630
02:03:33,020 --> 02:03:30,600
through our veins to survive another day

2631
02:03:34,040 --> 02:03:33,030
and then the mandalorian came out and

2632
02:03:36,700 --> 02:03:34,050
you're like well this shit's gonna be

2633
02:03:42,560 --> 02:03:39,140
yeah I should actually start watching

2634
02:03:45,380 --> 02:03:42,570
that - I like the Netflix specials

2635
02:03:51,980 --> 02:03:45,390
because I can I can hit the the next

2636
02:03:56,180 --> 02:03:51,990
episode and then skip intro it's a lot

2637
02:03:57,920 --> 02:03:56,190
easier when I'm when I'm running who try

2638
02:04:02,210 --> 02:03:57,930
to have to fumble with tryna you alright

2639
02:04:03,710 --> 02:04:02,220
next episode skip this part I'm gonna

2640
02:04:04,790 --> 02:04:03,720
binge watch this there's no way I'm

2641
02:04:09,470 --> 02:04:04,800
watching the intro of

2642
02:04:11,090 --> 02:04:09,480
nine times but if you notice they make

2643
02:04:15,080 --> 02:04:11,100
you watch the intro for the first

2644
02:04:17,090 --> 02:04:15,090
episode oh yeah I do miss that yeah they

2645
02:04:19,640 --> 02:04:17,100
sure do huh but it's smart that they're

2646
02:04:22,790 --> 02:04:19,650
the only service that does skip intro or

2647
02:04:24,500 --> 02:04:22,800
a wait I think if you go premium on some

2648
02:04:26,860 --> 02:04:24,510
of them like Hulu you can skip the intro

2649
02:04:29,690 --> 02:04:26,870
oh [\h__\h] and you don't get it might well

2650
02:04:36,860 --> 02:04:29,700
no I just got I got I got the cheap one

2651
02:04:41,450 --> 02:04:36,870
for 14 bucks I got Disney Hulu yeah you

2652
02:04:50,450 --> 02:04:41,460
get any any truck commercials with a

2653
02:04:52,959 --> 02:04:50,460
truck yeah 0% APR on the Princeton on

2654
02:04:57,010 --> 02:04:52,969
the 7 0 down 0 APR title

2655
02:05:02,560 --> 02:04:57,020
is that like you know from another

2656
02:05:13,750 --> 02:05:02,570
episode they had a little bit of inside

2657
02:05:15,610 --> 02:05:13,760
jokes test to see whether they

2658
02:05:16,959 --> 02:05:15,620
definitely give me through work and so

2659
02:05:19,510 --> 02:05:16,969
when I got my class time I'm driving

2660
02:05:21,010 --> 02:05:19,520
around on my truck it's like I got you

2661
02:05:25,800 --> 02:05:21,020
guys blast out through the speakers as

2662
02:05:31,330 --> 02:05:25,810
I'm going to mine at each job you drive

2663
02:05:32,950 --> 02:05:31,340
this is a band actually I work as a I'm

2664
02:05:34,330 --> 02:05:32,960
a service technician I fixed cable

2665
02:05:36,040 --> 02:05:34,340
Internet and phone service for a

2666
02:05:38,260 --> 02:05:36,050
spectrum all right all right

2667
02:05:44,140 --> 02:05:38,270
is it one of them old Nissan's or is it

2668
02:05:44,800 --> 02:05:44,150
a four or it's the Ford f250 yeah that's

2669
02:05:47,560 --> 02:05:44,810
what's up

2670
02:05:49,120 --> 02:05:47,570
love that I'm actually I'm actually the

2671
02:05:52,840 --> 02:05:49,130
Chevy guy I don't know if you could tell

2672
02:05:53,560 --> 02:05:52,850
by our logo the 64 Impala you know I'm a

2673
02:05:55,030 --> 02:05:53,570
big fan

2674
02:05:56,650 --> 02:05:55,040
me and Ben always said that if we could

2675
02:05:58,930 --> 02:05:56,660
ever create the technology to be able to

2676
02:06:00,820 --> 02:05:58,940
travel the universe we wouldn't do it in

2677
02:06:01,300 --> 02:06:00,830
one of those lame-ass saucers or tic

2678
02:06:04,510 --> 02:06:01,310
tacs

2679
02:06:06,040 --> 02:06:04,520
we went fix up a 64 Impala and cruise

2680
02:06:08,590 --> 02:06:06,050
the universe in it because you can fit

2681
02:06:21,040 --> 02:06:08,600
wet people in a64 than you can in like a

2682
02:06:24,040 --> 02:06:21,050
like a three a lien UFO I used to have a

2683
02:06:26,290 --> 02:06:24,050
1970 Impala and I could load up my base

2684
02:06:27,670 --> 02:06:26,300
equipment and all of my drummer's [\h__\h]

2685
02:06:31,090 --> 02:06:27,680
into the back of that thing it was

2686
02:06:32,410 --> 02:06:31,100
awesome what with a boat like that if

2687
02:06:33,280 --> 02:06:32,420
you're flying through the universe you

2688
02:06:40,380 --> 02:06:33,290
won't have to worry about hitting

2689
02:06:47,170 --> 02:06:44,650
yep that dude that reminds me it in in

2690
02:06:49,990 --> 02:06:47,180
that car in that 70 Impala I had I

2691
02:06:52,390 --> 02:06:50,000
actually backed into a flagpole that was

2692
02:06:54,520 --> 02:06:52,400
cemented into the ground and it had this

2693
02:06:57,130 --> 02:06:54,530
big metal casing around the cement block

2694
02:06:59,229 --> 02:06:57,140
and I dented the [\h__\h] out of that thing

2695
02:07:01,450 --> 02:06:59,239
man and I cracked the cement all the way

2696
02:07:03,610 --> 02:07:01,460
through and then I got out of the car

2697
02:07:05,230 --> 02:07:03,620
and I was like oh no and I had this

2698
02:07:07,240 --> 02:07:05,240
little as dent in the

2699
02:07:09,880 --> 02:07:07,250
bumper of my car oh well good Elise

2700
02:07:11,710 --> 02:07:09,890
think their tanks man it was awesome man

2701
02:07:13,930 --> 02:07:11,720
it was awesome I loved that car

2702
02:07:15,850 --> 02:07:13,940
but that's why people love those cars

2703
02:07:19,380 --> 02:07:15,860
that and like the old Bonneville Stu

2704
02:07:21,970 --> 02:07:19,390
like with those big fat trunks yeah they

2705
02:07:24,400 --> 02:07:21,980
loved using those for the derbies the

2706
02:07:28,870 --> 02:07:24,410
demolition derbys yep yep just solid

2707
02:07:33,580 --> 02:07:28,880
dude solid I love that I love that car

2708
02:07:37,630 --> 02:07:33,590
man I'd like more of a Jeep can again I

2709
02:07:40,750 --> 02:07:37,640
Drive a yeah 2015 Jeep Cherokee

2710
02:07:43,600 --> 02:07:40,760
trailhawk oh nice nice is it delight

2711
02:07:48,520 --> 02:07:43,610
games - oh yeah you can brunch it over

2712
02:07:52,660 --> 02:07:48,530
an American money earlier oh yes what

2713
02:08:01,030 --> 02:07:52,670
about you PJ cuz I was talking [\h__\h]

2714
02:08:01,780 --> 02:08:01,040
about oh my god 11 GMC Sierra 1500 all

2715
02:08:03,970 --> 02:08:01,790
right

2716
02:08:18,010 --> 02:08:03,980
I was waiting firm to say I Drive a

2717
02:08:19,810 --> 02:08:18,020
Prius I was gonna live this guy's like

2718
02:08:23,770 --> 02:08:19,820
this guy's like 6 feet tall

2719
02:08:25,660 --> 02:08:23,780
trying to get into a book because I

2720
02:08:27,820 --> 02:08:25,670
always see the biggest guys like in the

2721
02:08:30,730 --> 02:08:27,830
smallest cars like out here in Austin

2722
02:08:33,300 --> 02:08:30,740
we're like I don't know what it is about

2723
02:08:41,170 --> 02:08:33,310
this place but man there's like these

2724
02:08:43,180 --> 02:08:41,180
people in tiny cars what time is it it

2725
02:08:47,590 --> 02:08:43,190
is oh well I mean we're in different

2726
02:08:50,470 --> 02:08:47,600
states but it's 8:30 9:30 9:30 is my

2727
02:08:54,760 --> 02:08:50,480
wife or mine had another interview at 11

2728
02:08:56,560 --> 02:08:54,770
right right yeah dude Clyde Lewis man

2729
02:08:59,530 --> 02:08:56,570
that's exciting this but yeah have you

2730
02:09:00,730 --> 02:08:59,540
been on the show before yeah this would

2731
02:09:02,590 --> 02:09:00,740
be the second time I've been on his show

2732
02:09:06,760 --> 02:09:02,600
and then I've also been on like fade to

2733
02:09:14,070 --> 02:09:06,770
black coast-to-coast cool like I I've

2734
02:09:18,010 --> 02:09:14,080
been on naps show just Jerry Korbel yeah

2735
02:09:18,669 --> 02:09:18,020
you raised about every boy that's

2736
02:09:21,370 --> 02:09:18,679
awesome too

2737
02:09:23,590 --> 02:09:21,380
well I'll be honest with you I love I

2738
02:09:25,270 --> 02:09:23,600
loved a little I like no offense to you

2739
02:09:27,640 --> 02:09:25,280
guys but I like the podcast like that

2740
02:09:30,640 --> 02:09:27,650
stuff like that because it's like you

2741
02:09:31,270 --> 02:09:30,650
just love that I mean dude just you know

2742
02:09:33,280 --> 02:09:31,280
you're right

2743
02:09:34,840 --> 02:09:33,290
you mean although you'd love to just

2744
02:09:37,689 --> 02:09:34,850
quit your jobs to do this you know

2745
02:09:39,820 --> 02:09:37,699
full-time yeah just the energy you guys

2746
02:09:41,649 --> 02:09:39,830
got where you just just love this topic

2747
02:09:43,330 --> 02:09:41,659
that's what I love you know that's why I

2748
02:09:47,229 --> 02:09:43,340
like coming on the shows like this and

2749
02:09:49,479 --> 02:09:47,239
that's you know oh yeah well I'm glad we

2750
02:09:51,880 --> 02:09:49,489
could you could be in that in that list

2751
02:09:53,680 --> 02:09:51,890
of names that you just named but I mean

2752
02:09:55,750 --> 02:09:53,690
you know it's it's one of those things

2753
02:09:58,720 --> 02:09:55,760
man work you know we really started this

2754
02:10:00,850 --> 02:09:58,730
thing one because me and Ben really

2755
02:10:02,530 --> 02:10:00,860
enjoyed it but most of all it's it's

2756
02:10:05,200 --> 02:10:02,540
because of people like y'all you know

2757
02:10:07,300 --> 02:10:05,210
it's it's all about the stories it's all

2758
02:10:09,600 --> 02:10:07,310
about the people man you know and and

2759
02:10:13,630 --> 02:10:09,610
you know what they go through you know

2760
02:10:15,610 --> 02:10:13,640
sometimes people just need an ear yeah

2761
02:10:17,439 --> 02:10:15,620
and we want to be that you know that

2762
02:10:20,709 --> 02:10:17,449
platform people want something to say

2763
02:10:21,610 --> 02:10:20,719
you know come talk to us you know we're

2764
02:10:23,470 --> 02:10:21,620
not here to judge you

2765
02:10:25,149 --> 02:10:23,480
we're here to listen to your story and

2766
02:10:31,630 --> 02:10:25,159
then we'll take it from there

2767
02:10:33,939 --> 02:10:31,640
you know yeah and just say just like how

2768
02:10:36,040 --> 02:10:33,949
I allow I look at the whole all these

2769
02:10:37,959 --> 02:10:36,050
different things is just like even if

2770
02:10:40,450 --> 02:10:37,969
like 1% of the people are telling the

2771
02:10:44,290 --> 02:10:40,460
truth there's still some major crazy

2772
02:10:46,060 --> 02:10:44,300
stuff going on yeah absolutely man I

2773
02:10:47,439 --> 02:10:46,070
mean not only do people want to hear

2774
02:10:49,240 --> 02:10:47,449
about this stuff because it's super

2775
02:10:52,330 --> 02:10:49,250
interesting it's way different than

2776
02:10:54,580 --> 02:10:52,340
their day-to-day it's just the when you

2777
02:10:57,250 --> 02:10:54,590
get into it enough to realize that this

2778
02:10:59,080 --> 02:10:57,260
is actually happening to a lot of people

2779
02:11:01,810 --> 02:10:59,090
like you said like it even if it's

2780
02:11:04,149 --> 02:11:01,820
happening to 1% of the population I mean

2781
02:11:06,459 --> 02:11:04,159
think about how many people that are

2782
02:11:08,260 --> 02:11:06,469
telling telling the truth that aren't in

2783
02:11:09,669 --> 02:11:08,270
it for the money that aren't just doing

2784
02:11:11,200 --> 02:11:09,679
it for attention that they're doing it

2785
02:11:13,720 --> 02:11:11,210
but you know they're telling their story

2786
02:11:15,939 --> 02:11:13,730
because this stuff actually happened

2787
02:11:18,100 --> 02:11:15,949
yeah and I'm only talking about these

2788
02:11:19,810 --> 02:11:18,110
abduction stories but these stories you

2789
02:11:23,800 --> 02:11:19,820
know that that you guys have witnessed

2790
02:11:25,560 --> 02:11:23,810
are things that you know you didn't get

2791
02:11:29,020 --> 02:11:25,570
abducted you just saw some stuff that

2792
02:11:31,660 --> 02:11:29,030
defied the laws of physics and anything

2793
02:11:32,330 --> 02:11:31,670
you've ever been used to and yeah

2794
02:11:34,250 --> 02:11:32,340
definitely

2795
02:11:36,320 --> 02:11:34,260
it's just it's really I think it's

2796
02:11:37,970 --> 02:11:36,330
really important to bring it out and you

2797
02:11:39,980 --> 02:11:37,980
know have a good time with it and I and

2798
02:11:42,410 --> 02:11:39,990
I think another important thing like you

2799
02:11:45,110 --> 02:11:42,420
know with with our show is yes

2800
02:11:47,900 --> 02:11:45,120
you guys are experienced yes you guys

2801
02:11:49,610 --> 02:11:47,910
you know are these military guys at it

2802
02:11:51,680 --> 02:11:49,620
that witnessed the the tick-tack event

2803
02:11:53,600 --> 02:11:51,690
we also really try to bring out the

2804
02:11:55,910 --> 02:11:53,610
human element because we got to realize

2805
02:11:58,220 --> 02:11:55,920
that this stuff is happening but it's

2806
02:11:59,870 --> 02:11:58,230
happening to regular human beings you

2807
02:12:01,670 --> 02:11:59,880
know like I don't know how many other

2808
02:12:05,000 --> 02:12:01,680
shows you know you would listen to and

2809
02:12:07,910 --> 02:12:05,010
find out oh oh Gary rides the elliptical

2810
02:12:10,070 --> 02:12:07,920
and watches you know lost in space you

2811
02:12:11,750 --> 02:12:10,080
know what I'm saying we really try human

2812
02:12:14,930 --> 02:12:11,760
element we wouldn't know that PJ drives

2813
02:12:17,150 --> 02:12:14,940
a GC you know what I'm saying like we're

2814
02:12:19,610 --> 02:12:17,160
all just human beings man and we have to

2815
02:12:23,480 --> 02:12:19,620
you have to really remember that you

2816
02:12:26,150 --> 02:12:23,490
know a lot of it you know some of the

2817
02:12:27,620 --> 02:12:26,160
Big Show's are pretty good but there's a

2818
02:12:30,680 --> 02:12:27,630
lot of them that just kind of have an

2819
02:12:32,720 --> 02:12:30,690
agenda you know I mean those guys they

2820
02:12:34,190 --> 02:12:32,730
you know that serve that's their living

2821
02:12:36,800 --> 02:12:34,200
that they're making and you know there's

2822
02:12:38,990 --> 02:12:36,810
only so much you can report on so

2823
02:12:42,260 --> 02:12:39,000
there's always gonna be either a rehash

2824
02:12:46,130 --> 02:12:42,270
for an agenda or you know and you know

2825
02:12:47,600 --> 02:12:46,140
that [\h__\h] gets tedious after a while so

2826
02:12:49,220 --> 02:12:47,610
it's like when I can go on a show like

2827
02:12:51,050 --> 02:12:49,230
this and just kind of relax have a

2828
02:12:53,240 --> 02:12:51,060
couple beers [\h__\h] with some guys

2829
02:12:57,650 --> 02:12:53,250
throw out some crazy theories and just

2830
02:12:58,850 --> 02:12:57,660
kind of it's kind of relaxing because

2831
02:13:00,820 --> 02:12:58,860
like you know you got to mind your P's

2832
02:13:03,650 --> 02:13:00,830
and Q's and some the bigger shows

2833
02:13:06,080 --> 02:13:03,660
definitely definitely man well we're

2834
02:13:09,050 --> 02:13:06,090
definitely glad you're able to come on

2835
02:13:10,820 --> 02:13:09,060
and and and you're always welcome always

2836
02:13:12,680 --> 02:13:10,830
welcome on the show anytime you don't

2837
02:13:15,230 --> 02:13:12,690
want to come and shoot the [\h__\h] again

2838
02:13:16,820 --> 02:13:15,240
you know like definitely just hit us up

2839
02:13:20,150 --> 02:13:16,830
man roll is available we're always

2840
02:13:21,560 --> 02:13:20,160
available you know yeah keep definitely

2841
02:13:26,110 --> 02:13:21,570
keep in touch and then give me some

2842
02:13:31,700 --> 02:13:29,380
you know if how you guys on Twitter yet

2843
02:13:39,370 --> 02:13:31,710
we don't have a Twitter yet don't have a

2844
02:13:43,850 --> 02:13:41,720
there's a pretty decent community on

2845
02:13:45,140 --> 02:13:43,860
there that's where a lot of a lot of

2846
02:13:47,390 --> 02:13:45,150
like

2847
02:13:50,570 --> 02:13:47,400
I answer a lot of questions on Twitter

2848
02:13:52,820 --> 02:13:50,580
and Facebook so you know I try to keep

2849
02:13:54,470 --> 02:13:52,830
myself pretty available for questioning

2850
02:13:56,180 --> 02:13:54,480
and you know even if like after the fact

2851
02:13:57,919 --> 02:13:56,190
you had some questions that you forgot

2852
02:13:59,959 --> 02:13:57,929
about her because we were pious and

2853
02:14:01,700 --> 02:13:59,969
about you know four different topics

2854
02:14:04,070 --> 02:14:01,710
that had nothing to do with anything

2855
02:14:07,339 --> 02:14:04,080
yeah well hey what what give us your

2856
02:14:09,649 --> 02:14:07,349
Twitter a tag name so people can look

2857
02:14:12,830 --> 02:14:09,659
you up there listening to us no it's

2858
02:14:16,089 --> 02:14:12,840
it's just at Gary Voorhies and it's just

2859
02:14:24,620 --> 02:14:18,399
Hue's pj1

2860
02:14:27,080 --> 02:14:24,630
sweet perfect yeah it's Gary worries on

2861
02:14:29,089 --> 02:14:27,090
Facebook too so I mean I keep just the

2862
02:14:31,820 --> 02:14:29,099
same name all the way around so yeah

2863
02:14:33,830 --> 02:14:31,830
that's make it a way yeah I love y'all's

2864
02:14:35,270 --> 02:14:33,840
approach to like hey if anybody wants to

2865
02:14:37,910 --> 02:14:35,280
talk about it just we'll answer any

2866
02:14:39,950 --> 02:14:37,920
question you have I just absolutely love

2867
02:14:42,200 --> 02:14:39,960
that that it's so you guys are being

2868
02:14:43,850 --> 02:14:42,210
really open and just approachable to

2869
02:14:46,339 --> 02:14:43,860
this whole thing because there's there's

2870
02:14:49,160 --> 02:14:46,349
so many people that are curious and I

2871
02:14:51,169 --> 02:14:49,170
just have that man well I get that gate

2872
02:14:54,080 --> 02:14:51,179
earlier too it's the people that want to

2873
02:14:56,479 --> 02:14:54,090
control the narrative and you know you

2874
02:14:58,010 --> 02:14:56,489
profit off of this and you know it's

2875
02:15:00,560 --> 02:14:58,020
like I'm not I'm not trying to bust

2876
02:15:02,089 --> 02:15:00,570
anybody he's like yeah if somebody's

2877
02:15:03,379 --> 02:15:02,099
gonna make their dollar I'm not trying

2878
02:15:05,180 --> 02:15:03,389
I'm not trying to get in the way of that

2879
02:15:06,709 --> 02:15:05,190
I'm not gonna hold back just because

2880
02:15:11,260 --> 02:15:06,719
they want to control the narrative

2881
02:15:13,790 --> 02:15:11,270
either yeah refreshing you know I just

2882
02:15:15,320 --> 02:15:13,800
yeah and that blows my mind because you

2883
02:15:19,189 --> 02:15:15,330
would think the truth would make more of

2884
02:15:20,990 --> 02:15:19,199
a buck than a narrative right nobody

2885
02:15:24,919 --> 02:15:21,000
wants nobody wants the truth people want

2886
02:15:27,620 --> 02:15:24,929
to be entertained simple fact of the

2887
02:15:30,589 --> 02:15:27,630
matter you know it's like if I like

2888
02:15:32,359 --> 02:15:30,599
there's this uh sci-fi fantasy there's

2889
02:15:34,189 --> 02:15:32,369
this fantasy book series called The

2890
02:15:36,080 --> 02:15:34,199
Sword of Truth series and I'll tell you

2891
02:15:38,959 --> 02:15:36,090
what there's a statement in that book

2892
02:15:41,030 --> 02:15:38,969
that holds true anybody will believe

2893
02:15:46,190 --> 02:15:41,040
anything if they either want it to be

2894
02:15:53,580 --> 02:15:51,630
love that so when it comes down to

2895
02:15:56,460 --> 02:15:53,590
everything either people you know you

2896
02:15:57,630 --> 02:15:56,470
got the people on our side you know even

2897
02:15:59,280 --> 02:15:57,640
though we're a little skeptical you

2898
02:16:01,080 --> 02:15:59,290
really think that there's something

2899
02:16:02,550 --> 02:16:01,090
crazy going on you know and then you got

2900
02:16:04,950 --> 02:16:02,560
the other side but the skeptics are like

2901
02:16:06,510 --> 02:16:04,960
no I can't this this these things

2902
02:16:09,480 --> 02:16:06,520
couldn't happen so I have to make it my

2903
02:16:11,850 --> 02:16:09,490
life to disprove everything you know

2904
02:16:13,500 --> 02:16:11,860
where they've gotten so skeptical that

2905
02:16:15,630 --> 02:16:13,510
they can't keep an open mind and then

2906
02:16:17,100 --> 02:16:15,640
you know for somebody like you know then

2907
02:16:18,960 --> 02:16:17,110
there's people on our side that are so

2908
02:16:21,270 --> 02:16:18,970
open-minded that they just think

2909
02:16:22,590 --> 02:16:21,280
everything's real you know so it's it's

2910
02:16:24,360 --> 02:16:22,600
like we need to get back to the happy

2911
02:16:28,400 --> 02:16:24,370
medium where we can kind of just discuss

2912
02:16:30,630 --> 02:16:28,410
yet no you're like all right well yes so

2913
02:16:31,950 --> 02:16:30,640
that's actually what attracted me guys

2914
02:16:33,630 --> 02:16:31,960
because you guys were always kind of

2915
02:16:35,400 --> 02:16:33,640
like well I don't know about that and

2916
02:16:37,080 --> 02:16:35,410
then you know here you go well I watch

2917
02:16:41,300 --> 02:16:37,090
this documentary and well you know it

2918
02:16:46,680 --> 02:16:44,459
yeah so you guys you guys doing good man

2919
02:16:48,180 --> 02:16:46,690
keep it up well man I can't tell you how

2920
02:16:50,190 --> 02:16:48,190
much I appreciate that do that that's

2921
02:16:52,920 --> 02:16:50,200
just me and Joe just freaking out and

2922
02:16:56,880 --> 02:16:52,930
then and man thank you so much for being

2923
02:16:59,360 --> 02:16:56,890
on the show you guys Gary and PGA man I

2924
02:17:02,070 --> 02:16:59,370
can't tell you how much I appreciate you

2925
02:17:09,750 --> 02:17:02,080
well I need time you're low on content

2926
02:17:11,220 --> 02:17:09,760
you know just give me a funny witty well

2927
02:17:13,800 --> 02:17:11,230
I think that's it that's gonna be it for

2928
02:17:16,410 --> 02:17:13,810
us man and you get ready to go on a

2929
02:17:19,470 --> 02:17:16,420
Clyde Lewis man and hey don't forget to

2930
02:17:22,320 --> 02:17:19,480
tell him uh joe said what's up just and

2931
02:17:24,450 --> 02:17:22,330
uh you know stay healthy be safe and

2932
02:17:30,540 --> 02:17:24,460
keep getting the truth out man cuz I

2933
02:17:33,090 --> 02:17:30,550
love Clyde he's the man is that his like

2934
02:17:38,520 --> 02:17:33,100
like quote quote thing that he says

2935
02:17:40,200 --> 02:17:38,530
heard will be healthy be safe no no yeah

2936
02:17:41,970 --> 02:17:40,210
it's that's that's something that came

2937
02:17:44,970 --> 02:17:41,980
out of the old noggin oh yeah like that

2938
02:17:46,920 --> 02:17:44,980
definitely no he's saying Ground Zero

2939
02:17:51,870 --> 02:17:46,930
with Clyde Lewis you know I love that

2940
02:17:55,020 --> 02:17:51,880
and then is his intro music it's awesome

2941
02:17:57,090 --> 02:17:55,030
I love that guy he's great he's great

2942
02:17:57,870 --> 02:17:57,100
definitely one of my radio heroes for

2943
02:18:00,179 --> 02:17:57,880
sure

2944
02:18:02,490 --> 02:18:00,189
our bill George Noory that although all

2945
02:18:06,240 --> 02:18:02,500
the regulars you know that's you know

2946
02:18:08,820 --> 02:18:06,250
the stuff we listen to yeah so but yeah

2947
02:18:10,589 --> 02:18:08,830
man it's it's been great man thank you

2948
02:18:13,770 --> 02:18:10,599
guys so much for coming on the podcast

2949
02:18:17,009 --> 02:18:13,780
and like I said y'all are always welcome

2950
02:18:20,009 --> 02:18:17,019
to come back anytime and so we'll

2951
02:18:24,179 --> 02:18:20,019
definitely be in contact with y'all

2952
02:18:27,480 --> 02:18:24,189
yes sir our man all right boys all right

2953
02:18:32,370 --> 02:18:27,490
well we'll talk to y'all soon yes sir

2954
02:18:36,780 --> 02:18:32,380
all right bye whoa

2955
02:18:39,120 --> 02:18:36,790
damn dude so that was cool that was sick

2956
02:18:42,719 --> 02:18:39,130
bro that was awesome man

2957
02:18:44,940 --> 02:18:42,729
i dude I mean I'm I'm uh I'm almost

2958
02:18:47,790 --> 02:18:44,950
speechless yeah but yeah a little bit

2959
02:18:49,770 --> 02:18:47,800
like the you know Gary's theories we're

2960
02:18:52,320 --> 02:18:49,780
at my favorite part I think I mean I

2961
02:18:53,879 --> 02:18:52,330
love hearing all the details of the

2962
02:18:55,589 --> 02:18:53,889
thing just shootin the [\h__\h] with these

2963
02:18:56,730 --> 02:18:55,599
guys yeah absolutely like you were

2964
02:18:58,620 --> 02:18:56,740
saying at the end of the podcast like

2965
02:19:00,360 --> 02:18:58,630
man it's just one of these things is

2966
02:19:04,410 --> 02:19:00,370
just to realize that these people are

2967
02:19:09,330 --> 02:19:04,420
just regular Gilly people yeah totally

2968
02:19:11,070 --> 02:19:09,340
totally gmc's and ninja I was gonna say

2969
02:19:21,990 --> 02:19:11,080
well my favorite parts was the fact that

2970
02:19:24,780 --> 02:19:22,000
no PJ drives GMC yeah dude but dude I

2971
02:19:28,080 --> 02:19:24,790
mean that was awesome you know I loved

2972
02:19:30,690 --> 02:19:28,090
that these guys you know have these

2973
02:19:32,820 --> 02:19:30,700
stories and are willing to talk about it

2974
02:19:36,780 --> 02:19:32,830
and then they're towards the end of the

2975
02:19:39,179 --> 02:19:36,790
episode you know it's it's good to just

2976
02:19:41,160 --> 02:19:39,189
kind of just remember that they're

2977
02:19:43,889 --> 02:19:41,170
regular people - yeah you know what I'm

2978
02:19:46,889 --> 02:19:43,899
saying man oh who is I feel like a lot

2979
02:19:48,570 --> 02:19:46,899
of times sometimes you know people hear

2980
02:19:51,950 --> 02:19:48,580
these stories and they're like oh man

2981
02:19:54,780 --> 02:19:51,960
you know he's you know like almost like

2982
02:19:58,670 --> 02:19:54,790
damn it what's the name of the show that

2983
02:20:01,100 --> 02:19:58,680
the alien show people your aliens know

2984
02:20:03,650 --> 02:20:01,110
like they are special

2985
02:20:06,820 --> 02:20:03,660
Yeah right you know what I'm sayin but I

2986
02:20:09,200 --> 02:20:06,830
mean these these are just two

2987
02:20:09,980 --> 02:20:09,210
unsuspecting do dudes ahead something

2988
02:20:11,570 --> 02:20:09,990
crazy

2989
02:20:13,520 --> 02:20:11,580
yeah habit of it ever seen anything

2990
02:20:16,310 --> 02:20:13,530
before like that and then and you know

2991
02:20:19,430 --> 02:20:16,320
like the way PJ was saying he was like I

2992
02:20:21,200 --> 02:20:19,440
mean dude I'd this [\h__\h] happened right

2993
02:20:23,511 --> 02:20:21,210
and we all moved on with our lives like

2994
02:20:25,160 --> 02:20:23,521
yeah we didn't realize there is anything

2995
02:20:28,030 --> 02:20:25,170
you know special about it

2996
02:20:32,091 --> 02:20:28,040
until way later yeah and then I was like

2997
02:20:35,091 --> 02:20:32,101
whoa okay so there was some significance

2998
02:20:37,490 --> 02:20:35,101
to this right and and you know they

2999
02:20:41,600 --> 02:20:37,500
noticed something strange was going on

3000
02:20:44,180 --> 02:20:41,610
but it wasn't a big deal until it was

3001
02:20:47,631 --> 02:20:44,190
yeah you know yeah which is it's kind of

3002
02:20:50,511 --> 02:20:47,641
cool man this is super cool yeah super

3003
02:20:52,700 --> 02:20:50,521
cool I'm so glad that Gary reached out

3004
02:20:54,381 --> 02:20:52,710
to us and I mean now we have that kind

3005
02:20:56,331 --> 02:20:54,391
of that line of connection and we'll be

3006
02:20:59,030 --> 02:20:56,341
a UFO con together right he's gonna you

3007
02:21:00,921 --> 02:20:59,040
you [\h__\h] no no he's going to contact in

3008
02:21:03,650 --> 02:21:00,931
the contact in the desert yeah contact

3009
02:21:09,440 --> 02:21:03,660
in the desert guy do we know what that

3010
02:21:12,410 --> 02:21:09,450
is this is one of those things we can

3011
02:21:15,200 --> 02:21:12,420
ask on Twitter that we should become

3012
02:21:18,501 --> 02:21:15,210
Twatter x' yeah dude I've never taught

3013
02:21:20,900 --> 02:21:18,511
it before but yeah I'm sure he'll listen

3014
02:21:22,700 --> 02:21:20,910
to this episode unless unless he really

3015
02:21:25,220 --> 02:21:22,710
is a stickler right and he has to listen

3016
02:21:27,740 --> 02:21:25,230
to every single episode maybe until he

3017
02:21:30,230 --> 02:21:27,750
gets to this episode and by that time

3018
02:21:31,120 --> 02:21:30,240
who knows contact in the desert might be

3019
02:21:34,160 --> 02:21:31,130
over

3020
02:21:38,360 --> 02:21:34,170
he's like [\h__\h] it was two weeks ago

3021
02:21:40,581 --> 02:21:38,370
man yeah we'll do that that was such a

3022
02:21:44,150 --> 02:21:40,591
great episode that was awesome

3023
02:21:46,131 --> 02:21:44,160
hey speaking of like you know shows and

3024
02:21:49,251 --> 02:21:46,141
stuff that we've been watching lately I

3025
02:21:52,041 --> 02:21:49,261
know the last time we had a podcast you

3026
02:21:55,700 --> 02:21:52,051
said that my APR was extremely hot

3027
02:21:58,581 --> 02:21:55,710
because because I hadn't seen Game of

3028
02:22:02,301 --> 02:21:58,591
Thrones uh-huh but I would like to know

3029
02:22:04,310 --> 02:22:02,311
have you seen The Witcher I watched all

3030
02:22:07,251 --> 02:22:04,320
of it in two days brother no [\h__\h] I play

3031
02:22:09,320 --> 02:22:07,261
I played witcher 3 the Wild Hunt uh-huh

3032
02:22:12,200 --> 02:22:09,330
and I watched I've been waiting for this

3033
02:22:14,480 --> 02:22:12,210
series to come out yeah for since they

3034
02:22:15,030 --> 02:22:14,490
announced it and I watched it in two

3035
02:22:17,040 --> 02:22:15,040
days

3036
02:22:19,469 --> 02:22:17,050
did you watch it it's awesome dude it is

3037
02:22:22,469 --> 02:22:19,479
so so [\h__\h] what do you how do you how

3038
02:22:24,570 --> 02:22:22,479
do you write how do you rank it against

3039
02:22:26,639 --> 02:22:24,580
Game of Thrones the battle scenes they

3040
02:22:28,080 --> 02:22:26,649
make Game of Thrones battle scenes other

3041
02:22:30,000 --> 02:22:28,090
than the Battle of the bastards they

3042
02:22:32,790 --> 02:22:30,010
make them look like child's play yeah

3043
02:22:35,219 --> 02:22:32,800
there's [\h__\h] so good yes sure The

3044
02:22:37,110 --> 02:22:35,229
Witcher is pretty de holy [\h__\h] really

3045
02:22:38,760 --> 02:22:37,120
really good if anybody hasn't seen that

3046
02:22:42,269 --> 02:22:38,770
it's like watching like a now like the

3047
02:22:44,010 --> 02:22:42,279
the style in like accuracy I guess and

3048
02:22:46,200 --> 02:22:44,020
the reality of battle of the bastards in

3049
02:22:49,290 --> 02:22:46,210
Game of Thrones it's like every battle

3050
02:22:49,980 --> 02:22:49,300
scene in which er it's so personal it's

3051
02:22:52,469 --> 02:22:49,990
on the ground

3052
02:22:54,990 --> 02:22:52,479
shit's flying at you they have like

3053
02:22:57,120 --> 02:22:55,000
amazing choreography with the fighting

3054
02:22:59,730 --> 02:22:57,130
and [\h__\h] man it is so good and I just

3055
02:23:01,769 --> 02:22:59,740
love the winter series yeah and uh the

3056
02:23:03,360 --> 02:23:01,779
dude that plays Geralt it does a really

3057
02:23:05,309 --> 02:23:03,370
great job with the voice because the

3058
02:23:07,340 --> 02:23:05,319
voice is a huge part of it haha it's got

3059
02:23:10,530 --> 02:23:07,350
this I can't do it but it's like

3060
02:23:12,870 --> 02:23:10,540
monotone like raspy voice yeah he

3061
02:23:15,000 --> 02:23:12,880
[\h__\h] kills it did oh yeah dude oh

3062
02:23:18,690 --> 02:23:15,010
yeah and the way they make like the

3063
02:23:20,700 --> 02:23:18,700
Jennif Jennifer story man everything is

3064
02:23:25,099 --> 02:23:20,710
so good everybody needs to check out

3065
02:23:27,059 --> 02:23:25,109
Richard in Witcher not Richard Richard

3066
02:23:28,620 --> 02:23:27,069
but if you're not a fan you should

3067
02:23:30,380 --> 02:23:28,630
definitely pull up all of Little

3068
02:23:33,450 --> 02:23:30,390
Richard's albums and listen to those

3069
02:23:36,389 --> 02:23:33,460
they're great in case you didn't know

3070
02:23:38,760 --> 02:23:36,399
Little Richard is rock and roll it is

3071
02:23:40,800 --> 02:23:38,770
it's not it's not funk it's just rock

3072
02:23:44,910 --> 02:23:40,810
and roll noise it is rock and roll

3073
02:23:47,010 --> 02:23:44,920
okay it is rock and roll oh yeah well I

3074
02:23:50,550 --> 02:23:47,020
contact made me know that it's true that

3075
02:23:52,050 --> 02:23:50,560
it's very true it is you could sell me a

3076
02:23:55,170 --> 02:23:52,060
truck right now and rock and roll with

3077
02:24:01,200 --> 02:23:55,180
that there's zero down on this rock and

3078
02:24:04,080 --> 02:24:01,210
roll well let's give a little shout-out

3079
02:24:06,000 --> 02:24:04,090
to uh let's see some spot we got Phoenix

3080
02:24:09,480 --> 02:24:06,010
shaving y'all check out speeding shave

3081
02:24:11,309 --> 02:24:09,490
Finn shaving yeah um so he's on episode

3082
02:24:13,860 --> 02:24:11,319
18 and that was our episode with the

3083
02:24:15,719 --> 02:24:13,870
with Doug I actually just bought some

3084
02:24:17,580 --> 02:24:15,729
more soap last night I need to buy more

3085
02:24:21,300 --> 02:24:17,590
amount yeah I need to buy some more

3086
02:24:24,300 --> 02:24:21,310
stuff hell yeah about another beard cube

3087
02:24:28,650 --> 02:24:24,310
oh yeah as Doug says he is a beard

3088
02:24:30,570 --> 02:24:28,660
Slayer but also you know they

3089
02:24:32,310 --> 02:24:30,580
also protect beards so you know right

3090
02:24:34,890 --> 02:24:32,320
they're not they're not biased the beard

3091
02:24:37,710 --> 02:24:34,900
Protection Agency yeah that's right

3092
02:24:39,841 --> 02:24:37,720
BPA hey band of bearded brothers uh

3093
02:24:43,740 --> 02:24:39,851
y'all need to get on that beard cube

3094
02:24:46,500 --> 02:24:43,750
it's amazing yeah and yeah it'sit's

3095
02:24:48,120 --> 02:24:46,510
really good [\h__\h] I love that stuff we

3096
02:24:49,680 --> 02:24:48,130
need to hook them up with with Doug and

3097
02:24:54,150 --> 02:24:49,690
see if they'll do a little filiation

3098
02:24:56,070 --> 02:24:54,160
thing yeah dude yeah yeah yeah shaving

3099
02:24:58,801 --> 02:24:56,080
products you know he's got he's got

3100
02:25:01,410 --> 02:24:58,811
beard care products he's even got a

3101
02:25:03,600 --> 02:25:01,420
little Carson's for your car car since

3102
02:25:06,480 --> 02:25:03,610
yeah yeah they got beach towels and

3103
02:25:09,390 --> 02:25:06,490
t-shirts and and laptop cases and all

3104
02:25:10,860 --> 02:25:09,400
kinds of stuff Mike so uh yeah dude it's

3105
02:25:12,900 --> 02:25:10,870
like a little Empire who's got a bunch

3106
02:25:14,640 --> 02:25:12,910
of merch yeah he's got a ton of merch

3107
02:25:17,820 --> 02:25:14,650
you know who else has merch even got

3108
02:25:20,881 --> 02:25:17,830
baby clothes oh yeah we need a baby Yoda

3109
02:25:21,420 --> 02:25:20,891
shirt ha ha yeah but made for only I

3110
02:25:23,520 --> 02:25:21,430
mean really

3111
02:25:27,540 --> 02:25:23,530
obviously for like human children but

3112
02:25:29,761 --> 02:25:27,550
like market or human market it as this

3113
02:25:32,580 --> 02:25:29,771
is a baby this is for baby Yoda's is for

3114
02:25:34,591 --> 02:25:32,590
baby Yoda's yeah but you know who else

3115
02:25:36,330 --> 02:25:34,601
as much as you fo garage PC check it out

3116
02:25:39,450 --> 02:25:36,340
y'all yeah that's right go get your

3117
02:25:42,360 --> 02:25:39,460
hoodie in your your shirt

3118
02:25:44,370 --> 02:25:42,370
we got socks we've got hats we've got

3119
02:25:47,100 --> 02:25:44,380
all kinds of stuff it helps support the

3120
02:25:48,960 --> 02:25:47,110
podcast you guys we also have a donation

3121
02:26:00,540 --> 02:25:48,970
link at the bottom at the footer of our

3122
02:26:03,780 --> 02:26:00,550
website really do some roll you were

3123
02:26:05,011 --> 02:26:03,790
just on I know you look like you were

3124
02:26:06,810 --> 02:26:05,021
gonna say something oh I was just

3125
02:26:10,200 --> 02:26:06,820
thinking ahead like yeah and don't

3126
02:26:13,080 --> 02:26:10,210
forget abduction 51 abduction 1551

3127
02:26:14,790 --> 02:26:13,090
they're uh they're still here hey

3128
02:26:17,100 --> 02:26:14,800
they're still doing the thing hello

3129
02:26:18,631 --> 02:26:17,110
you know oh ha it's good stuff across

3130
02:26:22,680 --> 02:26:18,641
the pound hello can you hear me

3131
02:26:31,410 --> 02:26:22,690
t-shirts beanies kind of can't say

3132
02:26:33,341 --> 02:26:31,420
anything can we talk about our [\h__\h] but

3133
02:26:37,991 --> 02:26:33,351
also don't forget boo

3134
02:26:42,190 --> 02:26:38,001
you 4pc calm if you want to be cool like

3135
02:26:44,890 --> 02:26:42,200
Gary Voorhees you're gonna buy you a

3136
02:26:46,900 --> 02:26:44,900
shirt a doctor scientist yeah Gary but

3137
02:26:50,411 --> 02:26:46,910
as he bought a shirt Rose that's right

3138
02:26:54,251 --> 02:26:50,421
that's our scientists and so hey I I had

3139
02:26:56,140 --> 02:26:54,261
reached out to to to week yeah hopefully

3140
02:26:57,671 --> 02:26:56,150
we can get her on the show soon

3141
02:26:58,930 --> 02:26:57,681
now if the holidays are over maybe

3142
02:27:00,970 --> 02:26:58,940
they're all checking their emails again

3143
02:27:02,980 --> 02:27:00,980
maybe they just don't like the way I

3144
02:27:05,711 --> 02:27:02,990
email yeah probably that I don't know

3145
02:27:07,871 --> 02:27:05,721
but you know what I'm saying I make I'm

3146
02:27:10,060 --> 02:27:07,881
anxious to tell her that she's kind of

3147
02:27:13,091 --> 02:27:10,070
the whole reason that the cinnamon Terry

3148
02:27:17,201 --> 02:27:13,101
even exists yes you know what I'm saying

3149
02:27:18,881 --> 02:27:17,211
I'm in Tam and yeah yeah so we didn't

3150
02:27:20,741 --> 02:27:18,891
have our let's do it let's reach out to

3151
02:27:22,480 --> 02:27:20,751
her again yeah okay we'll have to do it

3152
02:27:23,711 --> 02:27:22,490
again okay maybe I'll let you do it

3153
02:27:25,900 --> 02:27:23,721
because I notice our emails are

3154
02:27:27,430 --> 02:27:25,910
different like I'm I'm very personal and

3155
02:27:29,621 --> 02:27:27,440
I'm like hey how's it going I hope

3156
02:27:35,100 --> 02:27:29,631
you've had a great week water bottle um

3157
02:27:38,621 --> 02:27:37,241
like your right to the point

3158
02:27:41,291 --> 02:27:38,631
right right to the point right to the

3159
02:27:44,921 --> 02:27:41,301
point I'm like hey very direct person

3160
02:27:47,440 --> 02:27:44,931
like hey I love your stuff um you know I

3161
02:27:49,631 --> 02:27:47,450
I really I really dig your material yeah

3162
02:27:51,100 --> 02:27:49,641
we think you'd be an awesome guest we

3163
02:27:54,430 --> 02:27:51,110
want to start this new year off off

3164
02:27:56,291 --> 02:27:54,440
right and I'd love to have you on people

3165
02:27:58,180 --> 02:27:56,301
don't want to read too much yeah I guess

3166
02:27:59,860 --> 02:27:58,190
not dude no I guess not so it's just

3167
02:28:03,281 --> 02:27:59,870
gotta stop it being nice maybe we need

3168
02:28:04,810 --> 02:28:03,291
to fuse to our email processes together

3169
02:28:07,871 --> 02:28:04,820
because I think you need a little of

3170
02:28:13,900 --> 02:28:07,881
both hey wanna come on the show PS like

3171
02:28:17,560 --> 02:28:13,910
your [\h__\h] I like your [\h__\h] good yeah I

3172
02:28:22,001 --> 02:28:17,570
did but yeah man this episode was epic

3173
02:28:24,581 --> 02:28:22,011
yeah great xxx I couldn't have asked for

3174
02:28:26,801 --> 02:28:24,591
more and shears real quick jeers 30

3175
02:28:29,230 --> 02:28:26,811
episodes alright try to hear that that

3176
02:28:33,610 --> 02:28:29,240
was a clink on your cans brought you by

3177
02:28:34,511 --> 02:28:33,620
Modelo s best year it's busier golden

3178
02:28:38,261 --> 02:28:34,521
fruit flavor

3179
02:28:43,301 --> 02:28:38,271
Pilsner style lager with a was that a

3180
02:28:47,740 --> 02:28:43,311
clean crisp finished brew Mexico also if

3181
02:29:19,600 --> 02:28:50,330
but that's in Spanish so most people

3182
02:29:21,680 --> 02:29:19,610
don't know what that means yes okay well

3183
02:29:25,210 --> 02:29:21,690
Modelo we're looking for a sponsor he

3184
02:29:30,040 --> 02:29:25,220
does that do ya I'll send you an email

3185
02:29:37,420 --> 02:29:30,050
you just called everybody fat dear no